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#522 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97]
Jun 18, 2008 (9:04 am)
"That is also a 2004-2005 Mazda5 5-door, when the 5-door actually sold. Remember, I have a 2005 Mazda6 5-door!!!
I believe that part of the reason that the Mazda6 5-door did not sell too well recently is a direct correlation to the slowness of sales for the sedan as well.
Mazda is the one who figured there was not much of a market for one now. I personally, want to see one."
So, when Mazda brings back the Mazda6 5-door in a year or two, will people still say there's no market for it?
I suppose there's no market for a car like the BMW X6 (available as a 5-door only) either, right? Of course, the X6 is at least twice the price of the Mazda6, but my point is that if the design is well-executed, people will buy it.
#523 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [exit123]
Jun 18, 2008 (10:40 am)
I suppose there's no market for a car like the BMW X6 (available as a 5-door only) either, right?
That's a crossover, Mazda has the CX-7 and CX-9 in that category. Not a lot of reason to bring a 5-door Mazda6 here, which would be less desirable to most Americans and therefore have to sell for a lower price.
Markets can change and $4 per gallon gas is causing big changes in the vehicle market.
#524 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [exit123]
Jun 18, 2008 (11:44 am)
I think you are getting ahead of yourself there. Since we are not getting one, someone somewhere with Mazda seems to think there is not enough of a demand for a 2009 Mazda5 5-door. Mazda offers 3 other "hatch" varieties, Mazda3 5-door, CX-7 and Mazda5. From a dollars and cents stand point, Mazda can justify not offering one here, especially since the 5-door sales have dropped dramatically, and CX-7, Mazda5 and Mazda3 5-door sales are outstanding.
Again, this does not express my personal view, only what my guess is to what Mazda is thinking, since they have not told us!
I would like to see a Mazda6 5-door for the 2nd gen Mazda6.
#525 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [jeffyscott]
Jun 18, 2008 (11:47 am)
"Not a lot of reason to bring a 5-door Mazda6 here, which would be less desirable to most Americans and therefore have to sell for a lower price.
So, in a year or two when they start selling the Mazda6 5-door again, what will your opinion be?
#526 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [aviboy97]
Jun 18, 2008 (9:01 pm)
Since we are not getting one, someone somewhere with Mazda seems to think there is not enough of a demand for a 2009 Mazda5 5-door.
What market are you in? General manager at local dealer told me 40% of their Mazda6 sales were hatchbacks.
#527 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [exit123]
Jun 19, 2008 (4:14 am)
It is a fact that Mazda does not see value in bringing the hatch here (at this time), or they would be doing it.
My post also stated the fact that markets can change and $4 per gallon gas is causing big changes in the vehicle market.
Note to hatch lovers: It is not I who sees "crossovers", et. al. as more desireable and therefore worth more money than a hatch. This has simply been a fact in the vehicle market in the USA, at least in the recent past. For example the CX-7 sells for much more than the Mazda6 wagon did, does it not? If Ford had made a Fusion wagon, rather than the Edge crossover, the price would have had to be lower in order to sell them. Look at the price Honda is able to get for a glorified Civic wagon by putting it on stilts and calling it a CRV. The Focus wagon and the Escape are yet another object lesson.
#528 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [jeffyscott]
Jun 19, 2008 (6:31 am)
VW is releasing a Jetta wagon this summer. Coincidentally, they're also releasing a small SUV, the Tiguan. Strangely, if you opt for the 2.0T on the wagon (base on the Tiguan), the Jetta costs MORE. Even then, I bet they sell more Jetta wagons than Tiguans, considering the 2.5 Jetta wagon can be had for less than 20k.
#529 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [moparbad]
Jun 19, 2008 (7:08 am)
I'm in the North East. Mazda6 5-doors make up less then 10% of total Mazda6 sales.
#530 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [vincep]
Jun 19, 2008 (7:10 am)
I really don't think the Tiguan will do too well. To get a AWD Tiguan with an automatic transmission and alloy wheels, the MSRP is $30,000, and that is without leather. You can get a comparably equipped Mazda CX-7 for an MSRP of $27,000, and take 1.9% financing or a $2,000 rebate. Plus, the CX-7 has a whole lot more power.
#531 of 2226 Re: Pics of 6 I4 in CA parking [moparbad]
Jun 19, 2008 (8:05 am)
My observation was that on any given Sunday afternoon when I checked my local dealer (I'm in the southwest), about 20-30% were 5-doors.
I think Mazda just decided to wait until after the launch to decide if they want to offer the 5-door. Then they can judge demand and iron out the engine/tranny mix and option packages . They might get a lot more motivated when dealers report that they are losing sales due to the lack of a 5-door, whether it's 10% or 40% of sales. The other thing we know it that there are people like me who won't buy the new Mazda6 unless it's offered in 5-door form. Some of us have kids and like outdoor activities so we need the utility, but aren't interested in sacrificing handling. Our other options are the Mazda3 5-door, Impreza 5-door, Jetta/GTI 5-door, all of which both have less interior volume than the current Mazda6 5-door. Maybe we should start a thread on "Sporty 5-door Cars for Families" that excludes SUVs, Cute-utes and crossovers.