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Mazda6 Factory by aviboy97
Dec 06, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Hey everyone-
 
I had the opportunity to tour Auto Alliance International, the plant that manufacturers the NA Mazda6 and it was a great experience.
 
The plant was actually dark (non operational for the week), so I got to actually look very closely to how the Mazda6 is built and see the quality check processes that take place, and there are a lot of quality check points. Something I found interesting was that the majority of the parts used, outside of the body, come from Japan.
 
There happen to be a group of Mazda people there doing something. They were Japanese speaking in Japanese, so I assumed they were engineers or people of importance.
 
Many of you know, Ford builds the Mustang there too. They are built on the same line. For every Mustang built, there are 4 Mazda6's built. I got to see first hand the production of the first 2010 Mustangs, including the Shelby's. They were pre-production models. Never the less, it was cool to see them up close. They are much nicer then the current model.
 
No pics were allowed, for obvious reasons.
 
It was a great experience, I just thought I would share with you!
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Re: Whine/Feedback on Satellite [jxc11] by trinitywolf
Dec 06, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: jxc11 (Dec 05, 2008 6:31 pm)

jxc11, I have a 09' 6 I GT with Bose and I have not had any problem with the Satellite sound. No feedback at all.
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Re: Whine/Feedback on Satellite [jxc11] by musicman5
Dec 08, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: jxc11 (Dec 05, 2008 6:31 pm)

I have also noticed a very slight "distortion" when listening to Sirrius. It isn't enough to be overly annoying, but not as clear as FM. My signal also goes in/out frequently (which I find more annoying). I probably will not renew when my free year is up, as I don't have a far drive to work, and we get more than enough good stations in the Philadelphia area.
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Re: Prices - Fair? [cjeric] by musicman5
Dec 08, 2008 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: cjeric (Dec 01, 2008 4:10 pm)

I paid $1,000 under invoice for the S GT w/Bose and Nav. You shouldn't have to pay more than invoice, dealer gets $500 +/- for holdback, so even under invoice they still make a profit. Mazda sales are down 35% in November, and the sales of the Mazda 6 were down 3.5% alone. They are not selling well, have you seen any one the road? Tell them you want 0% and $1,500 under invoice and negotiate up from there. Make sure you do your research before going in to negotiate. Try and get a few other dealers to send you quotes, then take the lowest quote in and show your "hand" if you need to. Go at the end of the month near closing time and deal with the person in authority (manager) not the salesperson. Even, if the dealer takes a "loss" (which is not likely) the car will be on the road giving free advertising to the dealership. Don't forget a car is a commodity. Each dealer pays the same amount for the car, so if your dealer won't deal- go elsewhere.
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Re: Prices - Fair? [musicman5] by aviboy97
Dec 08, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: musicman5 (Dec 08, 2008 5:23 am)

Mazda sales are down 35% in November, and the sales of the Mazda 6 were down 3.5% alone. They are not selling well
 
Honda, Toyota, Nissan are also down. Let's keep things in perspective here and not make it sound like the Mazda6 is "not selling". That is just not true. The current economic situation is dictating the market.
 
Tell them you want 0% and $1,500 under invoice and negotiate up from there.
 
Well, 0% for 36 months is offered to everyone. You get it no matter what as long as you are credit worthy. Remember, a 36 month term carries a hefty payment. In this tough economic time, not many people can afford to have a large car payment.
 
As a potential buyer, always get the lowest price you can. Give it your all.
 
Mazda is not paying out volume bonuses for meeting sales objectives for December. Dealer profit amount has decreased.
 
Just out of curiosity, if you do get $1,500 below invoice, and the dealer gives up the $500 holdback, the dealer is now $1,000 under true cost. How are they still making money? Mazda is not paying out volume bonuses and dealers are not paid on the special financing rates. Where do dealers make profit on this car now? You seem to know, so I would like to know specifics?
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Re: Whine/Feedback on Satellite [musicman5] by lpmiller
Dec 08, 2008 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: musicman5 (Dec 08, 2008 5:04 am)

satellite is not as clear as FM, and you can get distortion at times. If the signal is going in and out a lot though, that implies a bad antenna or bad module, unless you live in an area where the sky is frequently blocked.
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Re: Prices - Fair? [musicman5] by lpmiller
Dec 08, 2008 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: musicman5 (Dec 08, 2008 5:23 am)

i've actually seen two in the past 3 days, one an exact clone of mine. That was really surreal after not seeing any in 3 months.
 
You haven't seen any because mazda does not sell in the numbers that honda and toyota does. The 6 has never sold anywhere near as many cars as the accord or Camrey, so not seeing any of a new model 3 months after launch is not really all that odd.
 
Considering everyone is down about 30-40 percent, they are selling very well for the climate. I know my dealer was telling me they were doing fairly steady business on them.
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Re: Prices - Fair? [aviboy97] by musicman5
Dec 09, 2008 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Dec 08, 2008 8:50 am)

I was told by the finance manager who did my closing, that the dealership took about a $150 loss on the vehicle. So, if I paid $1,000 under invoice, there must be some other monies that the dealer receives in addition to holdback. Why would the dealership take a loss on a vehicle? Perhaps for one or more of the following reasons: 1)The car is on the road for other potential car buyers to see; 2) a satisfied customer was created that was new to Mazda and this dealership,and I might be inclined to send potential buyers to this dealership; 3) it removes a car from the lot that has perhaps been sitting for several months. At least that is what I was told when I asked the finance manager why they took a loss on my vehicle.
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Re: Prices - Fair? [musicman5] by aviboy97
Dec 09, 2008 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: musicman5 (Dec 09, 2008 5:11 am)

I was told by the finance manager who did my closing, that the dealership took about a $150 loss on the vehicle
 
I dunno about that. Did you take advantage of the 0%?
 
1)The car is on the road for other potential car buyers to see; 2) a satisfied customer was created that was new to Mazda and this dealership,and I might be inclined to send potential buyers to this dealership; 3) it removes a car from the lot that has perhaps been sitting for several months. At least that is what I was told when I asked the finance manager why they took a loss on my vehicle.
 

 
When you start taking about that, those are key factors in generating potential future business, and does not play a factor into direct profit of the sale that just took place. All those things you mention are what a dealer does strive for. Really, repeat business and referrals are the way to stay in business, amongst other factors.
 
The thing about these Mazda6's are that they have not sat for long. The average car sits in inventory for around 90-150 days, which is the industry average. Considering that the car has only been out for little over 90 days, that's not bad at all. After spending last week in MI at a Mazda function, MNAO is thus far very pleased with Mazda6 sales, considering this rough economic time.
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Remote Starter by pats1fan
Dec 09, 2008 (8:50 pm)
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Picked up my GT 2009 Mazda 6 in October with a promise that my remote start would be installed when I picked up the car. I was given the run around about how the part wasnt' completely made, and that I would have to wait a couple of weeks. 2 months later, and still no remote start (which was part of the total vehicle purchase, and not an after thought). I was told by Mazda that there is a "technical issue" and that there will be an additional delay. I am wondering if anyone else has had this experience, or if they were able to have one installed?

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