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Re: Is GT worth 1600 more than Touring [malachai1] by aviboy97
Oct 18, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: malachai1 (Oct 18, 2008 12:59 pm)

It's not crazy. What does an 08 TL offer that the 09 6 does not? Also, with excessive discounts given to 08's because the 09's are here, it drives down resale.
 
There is no doubt Acura's has better resale, however, the 09 Mazda6 offers more then a TL in almost every way. It's faster, handles better, has more technology. All it does not have is the funny looking "A" on the grille.
 
You should never buy a car based on what it's worth 5-6 years from now, because to be honest, no one knows! Look at the MDX's now. They are worth NOTHING. Who fell for the "Acura MDX's will always hold their value" line a few years ago sure got hosed.
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Re: Is GT worth 1600 more than Touring [aviboy97] by drosa
Oct 18, 2008 (2:57 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 18, 2008 1:27 pm)

Thanks for your honest input all on the 6 vs. TL. It was a very difficult decision, but once Mazda offered the 3.9%, the difference became signficant in $$ for me.
 
 I put a deposit down on a S-Silver Touring with Conv, Bose/Moon roof and Rear Spoiler ($29655 MSRP). Total out the door is $27,248 (includes NJ Tax - 7%). I got invoice - 400 (S-plan) and -1000 for Private Launch. I did argue for the additional MAC rebate but the Manager( in 2 different dealers) insisted that it could not be combined with the Private Launch showing me the fine print in the offer stating they are both private offers. This is exactly $3K less (GT w\Bose would have been $1.5K diff) than the best price I got for the TL.
 
6 has that TL does not
   New Model
   Signficantly more horse power and torque ('08 Accord has more than '08 TL)
   Regular Gas
   Push button start
   Blind spot monitoring
   Rear Spoiler
  18 inch wheels
  Larger interior and trunk
  Much, Much nicer Xenon lights
 
Luxuries that 6 and TL both have
Blue tooth
Xenon
 
The TL has that 6 touring does not
Full leather seats
Home Link (GT offers)
Heated seats (GT offers)
Memory seats (GT offers)
auto dimming mirror(GT offers)
 
A note on the MDX mention. I bought an 05 Pilot over an outgoing '04 MDX and have no regrets.
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Re: Missing the point... [aviboy97] by ohblue
Oct 18, 2008 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 18, 2008 11:16 am)

Customers are to blame if they choose to spend their money how they want?
 
Just curious, has anyone offered to pay sticker price and you've said, "No, that's too high. I think you should pay me less?" You try to make as much as you can, the consumer tries to pay as little as they can. It's that simple. Unless you are really differentiating yourself, what else is there but price?
 
Live by free markets; die by free markets. Long live capitalism...
 
Lastly, I and I'm sure many others are genuinely appreciative of the information you and the other Mazda salesman have shared on this site, but you both have "taken shots" at consumers for trying to make the best deal they can. As far as I can tell, Edmunds is set up for consumers, aka the general public, to make the best car buying decision they can. Isn't there a better place you could vent your frustration about customer behavior?
 
Back to Mazda6's, I just put a down payment on mine today.
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Re: Missing the point... [aviboy97] by m6user
Oct 18, 2008 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 18, 2008 5:33 am)

get the dealer to drop their pants, and give and give and give. Even in the end
 
Taken out of context the above would be quite interesting to see.
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Re: Is GT worth 1600 more than Touring [malachai1] by sedmund
Oct 18, 2008 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: malachai1 (Oct 18, 2008 12:59 pm)

To each his own.
I had test driven TL sometime last year, but wasn't impressed. When I decided to buy a car last month and after driving the Mazda 6 S GT, I didn't even consider driving the TL again. And recently when I sat in my friend's 08 TL and I could immediately see why they are being so heavily discounted. Don't get me wrong, the TL is a pretty decent car, but when compared to my 6 S GT, the base TL looked and felt seriously out-dated, especially the interior, and to an extent the exterior too. (and that monster of a key ) In fact I was surprised at subtle things like that the TL doesn't even have the trunk lift strut that the 6 has - I had a 3-series like 10 years ago which had this. Plus the 6 GT has features which aren't even available on the TL. And mainly the 6 was more fun to drive than the TL. I don't know what the resale value of my car will be when I try to sell it, but I wouldn't automatically assume it would be lower than the 08 TL. And I wouldn't buy a car that I don't prefer just because it's resale could be better in the future.
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Re: [darkmanrob85] by sedmund
Oct 18, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: darkmanrob85 (Oct 16, 2008 4:30 am)

I saw one in the last 2 weeks on the interstate, yes it's still very rare though the dealership was telling me they are disappearing quickly off the lots. Wonder where all those cars are
BTW, I have an iphone and bluetooth works fine, though I feel the volume is low (compared to my CX-9) I have to increase the volume to more 30 to be able to hear, which is a very high volume setting.
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Re: Missing the point... [ohblue] by aviboy97
Oct 18, 2008 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: ohblue (Oct 18, 2008 3:28 pm)

Mazda salesman have shared on this site, but you both have "taken shots" at consumers for trying to make the best deal they can.
 
I resent the "taken shots" comment. If you notice, I have been more then fair in also claiming how bad dealers have been and how they have been the cause of what the business is today, and how some continue to be....besides, some of us dealers need to stand up when we get ripped here! Common, we are out numbered!!
 
Isn't there a better place you could vent your frustration about customer behavior?
 
I think you are misunderstanding me here. I am by no means frustrated. I'm simply calling a spade a spade. The car business is a rough, tough, business on both side of the salesman's desk. As I said, there is no need for it, but, it is what it is. So, guess what, you're stuck with me here
 
I just put a down payment on mine today
 
Now, that's what I'm talkin about! Keep us updated as to how you like it!
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Re: Is GT worth 1600 more than Touring [drosa] by aviboy97
Oct 18, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: drosa (Oct 18, 2008 2:57 pm)

We sold 7 Mazda6's today, and all took advantage of the 3.9%. It's a great deal!
 
I bought an 05 Pilot over an outgoing '04 MDX
 
The Pilot is a great CUV. Back then, there was not much of a difference between the two.
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Re: Missing the point... [m6user] by aviboy97
Oct 18, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 18, 2008 3:45 pm)

get the dealer to drop their pants, and give and give and give. Even in the end
 
Taken out of context the above would be quite interesting to see.

 
Sadly, that's reality too!
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Question for Aviboy97 on best price by cirruss
Oct 18, 2008 (7:03 pm)
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I am about to buy a 09 Mazda i Touring with Convenience package (and maybe the Bose package but depends if I can get a good deal). I don't have the $1000 launch offer, or any other extra incentives. Basically I will be going in to the dealer and negotiating straight off the sticker price. I know the dealer needs to make some money and I can accept that, but I just want to also save myself as much money as I can and walk away with a good price.
 
My question is would the S Plan price be the best lowest price one can get, or is it possible to negotiate with the dealer off the sticker price and possibly get a price that is below the invoice price? Also would it be easier to get the best negotiated price if I dealt directly with the Internet Sales Manager versus an in-house sales person? Please share your thoughts as this will be extremely helpful in my purchase.

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