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Replying to: crasht51 (Oct 17, 2008 9:22 am)  . I bought a Black s Touring
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Replying to: drosa (Oct 17, 2008 8:58 am) |
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As a true car guy, I get lost in all the amateur expertize regarding autos of today. Today's driver is so overly concerned with few dollars that they miss the fun of the drive. Mazda has been doing very well in building terrific nicely built cars that are great handling on the road, but all this is missed by the consumers penchant for demanding unrealistic pricing. It is my opinion that things are not so horribly bad, but the fact is we make matters worse by our ever present desire to always be on top. Go to a dealer drive the car, agree to dis-agree and buy the thing...
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Replying to: realcardude (Oct 17, 2008 4:33 pm) I do a good job, get praises from all the customers; whats an extra 10-15K in my pocket gonna hurt the bottom line. Some people do get hung up on the little nickle and dimes... |
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Replying to: realcardude (Oct 17, 2008 4:33 pm) Dealers are desperate today, and in reality the stock market should have no effect on people coming out to buy cars, because stock is fake money anyway. 401K's, 403B's that are all tanking right now will go back up. You don't see that money for years anyway, but, yet, it makes people not want to spend the money they do have. Since business is slow, around here dealers are not giving as great of deals because we all need to make money. The excuse "the economy sucks, car sales are slow, so give me the car for free" just does not work. My response is "you must be doing just fine, or you would not be here!" Shuts 'em right up! Anyway, I will never fault a customer for trying to rob the car, because they all read books, visit web sites like Edmunds, that give them all these "tricks" to make a dealer give the car away. A good salesman will always blow past all that garbage, establish a quality relationship with the customer, win them over and have them be overly joyed that the just bought a car. A salesman's happiest customer is ALWAYS the ones they make money on. The guy who comes in and busts your balls, wants the car for nothing, comes in with print outs from Edmunds are never fully satisfied, and are typically your worst customers, AND a salesman never makes any money on them. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 18, 2008 5:33 am) Mazda implemented the S-plan Mazda sent me the MAC rebate because I am coming off a lease Mazda sent me the Private Launch because I provided an e-mail address Mazda set the 3.9 financing Mazda will dictate which of these offers I can apply and I will oblige In the contrary, I am the ideal customer. I am walking into the dealer and presenting him with what I was giving from MAZDA and getting a final number with absolutely no negotiation. He will get reimbursed by Mazda. So what moral virtue am I breaking here? I would like to accept the offer(s) Mazda has given me. I am not expecting a nickel less.
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Replying to: drosa (Oct 18, 2008 7:27 am) 
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 18, 2008 5:33 am) The business model is directly attributed to the car manufacturers themselves and the consumers and salesmen/dealers pay the price. I think your focus is misdirected. There is an obvious reason why car dealers are often not trusted. Consumer behavioral studies repeatedly show this. It's human nature, not rocket science. When stocks drop as much as they have, jobs loses usual follow as well. So even though their retirement savings should not be a consideration in purchasing a car (as long as the car does not prohibit them from adequately saving), the fear of possibly not being able to make that car payment due to job loss is easily understandable.
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Replying to: ohblue (Oct 18, 2008 8:35 am) Many dealers in my area follow this approach, including Saturn dealers (of coruse) and an entire chain of dealerships which includes a Mazda dealer. They post their firm prices on the cars for all to see. And the sales reps focus on finding the right car for the buyer, not on negotiating the price. And I can attest it makes for a much less stressful buying experience. So I agree... this is something that is totally under the dealers' control. They are the ones who set the prices at which they will sell their cars. No buyer can force a dealer to sell a Mazda6 at a certain price. P.S. Many people out there need their 401K/IRA/529 money right now. While the market takes a few years to recover, they are definitely impacted. Not everyone has the luxury of waiting 10-20-30 years to draw that money out of the market. And just because someone is shopping for a car, doesn't make them rich. It means they need a car, period. |
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