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Re: [jason777] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 08, 2008 5:44 pm)

CR recommended the Mazda6 in 04, 06-08. The only years omitted were 03 and 05.
 
If you look at the reliability history, you will see the 4 cyl engine has been flawless, and had a few tranny issues in 05.
 
It got an average rating because there are owners who have had no issues, and some who have had more then their fair share. Think of it as inconsistance. Mazda has stated that was a major priority, and have implemented better quality control measures to eliminate that.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [moveover] by chikoo
Sep 08, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: moveover (Sep 07, 2008 4:44 pm)

Right u are Sir!
 
The v6 block is common among Ford products. It is the head which is different between the Ford Taurus, theMazda6 and the Jaguar. I remember in2003 when Mazda came out with their 3.0 Duratec V6, it was better than the 3.0 v6 Duratec used in the Jaguar in terms of refinement
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Re: [aviboy97] by jason777
Sep 08, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 08, 2008 6:26 pm)

That seems like a reasonable explanation. I am feeling better about it now.
 
Just to clarify Jatco means "Japanese Automatic Transmission Company" Sorry to be a stickler!
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Re: [jason777] by jeffb1124
Sep 08, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 08, 2008 5:44 pm)

Jason, first let me apologize, I didn't mean to word it as negative as I did. Sometimes what you think and what you type don't match.
 
2nd, I don't work for Mazda or Ford or any car dealer/maker. I understand where you are coming from, if I had issues with my Charger I would be upset too. It's much easier to say get over it when it doesn't happen to you (I'd probably be in the Charger forum pressing the issue as well, ). As has been noted though Mazda has been getting better with reliability on the 6 and hopefully it is even better on the redesign. It won't be know for sometime but it seems as though Mazda has been noting the better quality in the press releases so hopefully it holds true.
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Re: [jason777] by m6user
Sep 08, 2008 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 08, 2008 5:44 pm)

Jeff are you are dealer? Just curious
 
Oh gee, is that an assumption? Maybe you're the only one on here that doesn't work for Mazda and this is all a conspiracy. I have had great luck with many brands and also had some very bad examples of those same brands. I don't assume the brand is terrible unless I have had several of the same brand and had bad luck with all of them. You seem to make a lot of assumptions about the quality of materials going into Mazdas and like to accuse anybody that disagrees with you that they are just too emotional about their cars to have an objective discourse with you. Have you ever considered that you might be the emotional one because of a lot of bad things that went wrong with one car. Every single brand has it's lemons and a lot of people have worse horror stories than yours.
 
CR recommends many of the Mazda vehicles and has for several years....probably a larger percentage of their total model offerings are recommended than a lot of other manufacturers.
 
Give us a break please.
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Re: Engine [jason777] by moveover
Sep 08, 2008 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 08, 2008 6:22 pm)

So who makes a reliable transmission? Is there such a thing?
 
The transmissions made by ZF tend to be very good. My 335i has the ZF 6HP which is the best auto I ever owned. They tend to be used for higher HP RWD European cars, like BMW's. The V8 version of the Genesis also uses a ZF tranny.
Had the ZF 5HP on my 04 Passat and it had no issues. VW went with the Aisin on their B6 Passat which gets a lower score according to CR on Minor Transmission Repair.
 
But you can't go by what CR tells you. My wife had a 1991 LeBaron Conv. with their infamous 4 speed and the Mits V6. No problems at all. When it came time to buy a Dodge Caravan in 1996, I followed CR's advise and bought it with the good old recommended 3-speed and the Mits V6. Tranny blew at 9 month old. Got Dodge to buy it back and replaced it with a 97 with their infamous 4 speed and the 3.8 engine. No issues with that one, had it for about 70k. Replaced it with a 2001 Odyssey which needed a new transmission around 55k. Did not like the Honda Reliability and replaced it with a 06 MPV at around 90k.
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Re: And actually... [backy] by maxamillion1
Sep 08, 2008 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 08, 2008 9:28 am)

Actually the Mazda6 S Grand Touring comes standard with xenon headlamps, LED taillamps, rain sensing wipers and memory seats(two class exclusives), auto dimming outside rearview mirrors with puddle lamps (a class exclusive as only the Malibu and Aura have auto-dimming o/s driver's mirrors) and other exclusive features such as the blind spot monitoring system for an MSRP of about $28.9K. It only gets up to $30,690 when you add in the BOSE/Moonroof pkg. Even at those prices the Mazda6 is still comparable with the Nissan Altima 3.5SL/SE, Toyota Camry SEV6/XLEV6 and Honda Accord EX-LV6. As a matter of fact, with the way Nissan does it packaging the Altima 3.5SE fully loaded has a higher MSRP and Invoice than the Mazda6 does! So that indeed makes some of the features available on the Mazda6 class exclusives. Also, you don't have to step up to the Mazda6 s Grand Touring V6 to get these features, you can also get the Mazda6 i Grand Touring I4 which packs every feature of the S models minus the 18 inch alloy wheels. The MSRP for the i GT is around $25.9K without Moonroof pkg and gets to around $28K with that pkg.
 
Name one midsize family sedan in this class that has those features for 2009 with a starting MSRP around the same price as the Mazda6 i and s Grand Touring. I'm not talkin full-size or near-luxury sedans, I'm talking midsize family sedans which have similar MSRPs to this new Mazda6. The only car in this class that had these features off hand was the Passat 2.0t Lux and VR6 models, which have been discontinued for MY2009. Other than that, you'd have to step up to a Maxima SV with Sport or Premium pkgs., an Acura TSX or TL or a Azera...basically something in another class. The Mazda6 is neither full-size nor near luxury...so thus many of its features are indeed class exclusive.
 
When you factor in discounts, I can understand, but I'm more than sure you'll be able to get a Mazda6 at a discount price eventually, which would make it even cheaper than the "V6 sedans around $30K" that you mentioned
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2 questions on Mazda 6 by leowin
Sep 09, 2008 (4:47 am)
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I am a current owner of Mazda 3, the lease is ending sometime early next year so I am keen to continue my association with Mazda...Mazda 3 has been great, sporty, no problems / rattles, however the A/C performance is below par, infact very very weak. Does anybody know if the 09 Mazda 6 has better AC compressor? Also wondering if anti-whiplash headrests are standard on the 6?
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Re: 2 questions on Mazda 6 [leowin] by aviboy97
Sep 09, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: leowin (Sep 09, 2008 4:47 am)

Lemme guess, you have a 04, 05 or 06 Mazda3? The A/C issue was solved for MY07. As for the Mazda6, I've never really heard of anyone having an issue with them. Mine still blows really cold at 45,000. They might use a different unit, remember, the 6 is built here.
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Re: 2 questions on Mazda 6 [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Sep 09, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 09, 2008 5:40 am)

I had thought my A/C was weak in my 2007 Mazda6. I eventually noticed the problem was that it would sometimes cut out when stopped, like it is supposed to do under hard acceleration.
 
The last flash update of the ECU mostly eliminated the problem...it has recurred only once. After the update it seemed like rpms would drop more slowly after stopping.
 
That said the A/C is not all that great, our '97 Ford Windstar is much colder as is my wife's '05 Jetta. I have to leave it on recirculate more than I think should be necessary.

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