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Re: Engine [jason777] by aviboy97
Sep 07, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 07, 2008 2:44 pm)

Transmissions though I have been told are sub par, a lot of failures prematurely. Mine being one of them. The Nissan transmissions are fantastic, CVT.
 
The 6-speed automatic is made by Aisin, who also produces trannys for Toyota, and used to build them for Honda.
 
The 5-speed auto is built by Jatco I believe, who also produces all of Nissans transmission, with CVT being the exception. For many many years, Mazda and Nissan had similar trannys in there vehicles. Jatco (Japanese Transmission Company) was at one time a joint venture by Mazda and Nissan.
 
The older Mazda 6 transmissions, mainly in the V6, had issues. The later models were ok. Very similar to what Honda went through in 2000-2004
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Re: [kapaaian] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: kapaaian (Sep 07, 2008 3:06 pm)

"I've never sold a B-series truck, and only one tribute "
 
It's those vehicles that bring the Mazda brand image down. However, in actuality, the Tribute has been a very good reliable car, out side of the 01-02. I almost never see them in the shop.
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09 Mazda6 v Altima v Accord by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (6:38 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=131667?tid=edmund- s.il.home.photopanel..1.*
 
Seems like Edmunds thinks the Mazda6 is the new benchmark.....
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Edmunds comparo test by mz6greyghost
Sep 08, 2008 (6:47 am)
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Click me!
 
Yes, that would be FIRST place, over the almighty Accord and Altima.
 
Check out the overall fuel economy that edmunds got in their tests:
Mazda6: 20 MPG
Accord: 18 MPG
Altima: 17 MPG (on Premium no less).
 
Another surprise is the fact that Mazda is the only one that uses scissor-hinges to keep them out of interfering with trunk space. I knew that the Altima didn't use them, but the Accord as well? Wow. I thought Honda would be better than that.
 
Discuss!
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [mz6greyghost] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 08, 2008 6:47 am)

You beat me to it about the observed overall fuel economy. Where are all the nay-sayers now about the crappy FE with the V6?
 
Skid Path #'s :
 
Mazda6: 0.81g 66.4-mph
Accord: 0.80g 63.3 mph
Altima: 0.79g 65.9 mph
 
Acceleration Stats:
 
Mazda6: 0-60 in 6.5 sec / 1/4 mile 14.7 seconds at 95.6 mph
Accord: 0-60 in 7.5 sec / 1/4 mile 15.6 seconds at 91.0 mph
Altima: 0-60 in 7.0 sec / 1/4 mile 15.0 seconds at 95.2 mph.
 
Conclusion:
 
With more room, better real world fuel economy, better handling, faster acceleration times it's a no brainer why the Mazda6 won.
 
I do think that the Mazda is at a price disadvantage with equipped with nav, considering an Accord with nav can be had at just over $30,000, while a Mazda6 with nav is around $32,000. I also did not like the fact that the Altima tester was not a loaded one, either.
 
Nay-sayers where are you!?!?!?!
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [mz6greyghost] by webwarmiller
Sep 08, 2008 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 08, 2008 6:47 am)

As someone who test drove ALL the midsize sedans out there before purchasing an 09 Mazda6 all I can say is that the results of this comparison are pretty much exactly inline with what I found as well.
 
The real world MPG's show exactly what many on this board already know and that sadly many uninformed consumers do not: Mazda's will meet or exceed their EPA numbers while the competition builds their cars to maximize the EPA tests at the expense of real-world MPG. The Accord and Altima were a full 5 MPG under their EPA combined numbers.
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And actually... by kapaaian
Sep 08, 2008 (8:34 am)
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The difference in points should be greater. If you look at the final scoring, the 6 got 90% for mileage, and the accord and altima the 100% when I imagine it should be the other way around since the 6 met it's estimate and also got better than they did.
 
As far as pricing, here's how it works out.
2009 Mazda6 S GT W/moon and Nav
32,690
 
Honda accord EX-L Nav
31,425
 
With the 6, for the extra 1265 dollars you get 18 inch alloys, Blind Spot Monitoring, Smart Key, rain sensing windshield wipers, Xenon HID headlights and auto dimming outside mirrors. Plus a bigger trunk, an extra gear and a much tighter turning circle and A2DP Bluetooth in addition to phone support.
 
The only features I can find that the accord has that the 6 doesn't are the Maintenence Minder and Power Lumbar instead of Manual.
 
Drop the nav, and the price difference is even less.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [webwarmiller] by jeffyscott
Sep 08, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: webwarmiller (Sep 08, 2008 7:44 am)

I don't know that I'd consider edmunds mpg figures to be "real world". I imagine that they drive more aggressively than the typical driver normally does.
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Re: And actually... [kapaaian] by maxamillion1
Sep 08, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: kapaaian (Sep 08, 2008 8:34 am)

and don't leave out the memory seats!!! That's a class exclusive!

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