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Re: [kapaaian] by jason777
Sep 07, 2008 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: kapaaian (Sep 07, 2008 3:06 pm)

In terms of build quality the Honda wins hands down. Otherwise the 2009 is certainly more comfortable than the honda. Speed wise it is probably close. Compared to the Camry, the Camry is more comfortable and has a better engine. Although the transmission is certainly iffy. The 6 handles better than the Camry, that is a no brainer. If Mazda just used components on par with Honda it would be by far the best car out there. Pity. I guess cutting corners is the name of the game. I have no bias towards any brand, I am completely detached from any of them and there is no self interest, just my observations.
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Re: Drove the 2009 Mazda6 V6 Grand Touring [sedmund] by keitha3
Sep 07, 2008 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: sedmund (Sep 07, 2008 4:50 pm)

sedmund, while I loved the contrast between the beige leather and the black, I do strongly agree in your assessment of the 6-cyl when compared to the 4. Pity the mileage was so low, but driving was a joy. The four responded nicely when given gas, but it wasn't the effortless, smooth acceleration of the six. I personally liked the car(s) inside and out, but ended up buying an '09 Accord this weekend.
 
I was a bit worried over the Mazda's reliability, although this is a new model so there's no real feedback in that regard yet. Another big factor was the dealer. The salespeople are great there, but I very much question whether I'd receive like treatment from the service department. I saw a service manager yelling at a customer on one visit and a google search increased my concern. The Honda dealer I trust as it is the third vehicle I bought from them.
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Re: [jason777] by jeffb1124
Sep 07, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 07, 2008 5:13 pm)

jason777,
 
What exactly is lacking with build quality on the 09 6 that isn't with the accord? It seems as though people are having some issues with the 08 Accord (ie sound in the cabin, i4 headlights flickering). There is not a car in the $20-30k price range that is perfect, every car has its flaws, though most are small and won't leave you stranded on the side of the road.
I have test driven the new 6 and found it enjoyable. I'm not looking for a new car but do like to keep up with what is in the market. I'd bet if they took the Mazda badge off & put a Honda badge on the new 6 you'd be saying how great it is. Because you got unlucky with a car you now seem to think every car built by Mazda is junk and can't compete with any other brand.
 
Also, please cite the review that you had mentioned about the brake pedal breaking when they did a hard stop on the new 6. I looked a little and couldn't find any review that stated they broke the brake pedal.
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MPG by zar1
Sep 07, 2008 (7:52 pm)
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The recent NY Times review expressed disappointment with the combined 22 MPG they got with the i. Any of you recent purchasers of the 4 cylinder (or 6 s for that matter) have a chance to check your mileage yet? What are you coming up with?
Thanks.
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Re: Engine [jason777] by aviboy97
Sep 07, 2008 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 07, 2008 2:44 pm)

Transmissions though I have been told are sub par, a lot of failures prematurely. Mine being one of them. The Nissan transmissions are fantastic, CVT.
 
The 6-speed automatic is made by Aisin, who also produces trannys for Toyota, and used to build them for Honda.
 
The 5-speed auto is built by Jatco I believe, who also produces all of Nissans transmission, with CVT being the exception. For many many years, Mazda and Nissan had similar trannys in there vehicles. Jatco (Japanese Transmission Company) was at one time a joint venture by Mazda and Nissan.
 
The older Mazda 6 transmissions, mainly in the V6, had issues. The later models were ok. Very similar to what Honda went through in 2000-2004
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Re: [kapaaian] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: kapaaian (Sep 07, 2008 3:06 pm)

"I've never sold a B-series truck, and only one tribute "
 
It's those vehicles that bring the Mazda brand image down. However, in actuality, the Tribute has been a very good reliable car, out side of the 01-02. I almost never see them in the shop.
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09 Mazda6 v Altima v Accord by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (6:38 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=131667?tid=edmund- s.il.home.photopanel..1.*
 
Seems like Edmunds thinks the Mazda6 is the new benchmark.....
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Edmunds comparo test by mz6greyghost
Sep 08, 2008 (6:47 am)
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Click me!
 
Yes, that would be FIRST place, over the almighty Accord and Altima.
 
Check out the overall fuel economy that edmunds got in their tests:
Mazda6: 20 MPG
Accord: 18 MPG
Altima: 17 MPG (on Premium no less).
 
Another surprise is the fact that Mazda is the only one that uses scissor-hinges to keep them out of interfering with trunk space. I knew that the Altima didn't use them, but the Accord as well? Wow. I thought Honda would be better than that.
 
Discuss!
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [mz6greyghost] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Sep 08, 2008 6:47 am)

You beat me to it about the observed overall fuel economy. Where are all the nay-sayers now about the crappy FE with the V6?
 
Skid Path #'s :
 
Mazda6: 0.81g 66.4-mph
Accord: 0.80g 63.3 mph
Altima: 0.79g 65.9 mph
 
Acceleration Stats:
 
Mazda6: 0-60 in 6.5 sec / 1/4 mile 14.7 seconds at 95.6 mph
Accord: 0-60 in 7.5 sec / 1/4 mile 15.6 seconds at 91.0 mph
Altima: 0-60 in 7.0 sec / 1/4 mile 15.0 seconds at 95.2 mph.
 
Conclusion:
 
With more room, better real world fuel economy, better handling, faster acceleration times it's a no brainer why the Mazda6 won.
 
I do think that the Mazda is at a price disadvantage with equipped with nav, considering an Accord with nav can be had at just over $30,000, while a Mazda6 with nav is around $32,000. I also did not like the fact that the Altima tester was not a loaded one, either.
 
Nay-sayers where are you!?!?!?!

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