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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [jason777] by jeffb1124
Sep 04, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 04, 2008 5:52 pm)

I understand that you have had some issues with your car, that doesn't mean Mazda builds unreliable products. Check the Camry and Accord boards, you will find people who have problems with their cars as well. I own a '06 Dodge Charger RT and haven't had a problem the 3 years I have owned it. Yet CR has stated for a good while the Charger RT was below normal in reliability. The problem is the people with problems are the people who will report back to the surveys stating the problems they've had, while the owners who haven't had a problem won't bother since they have nothing to complain about . I would never use a magazine to make my final decision on a car.
A car is a machine and none can be built exactly the same. When you purchase the car you are also taking a gamble on the reliability of the car you just drove off the lot, no matter the manufacturer. There is a reason cars come with a warranty and you may or may never have to use it.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [jason777] by moparbad
Sep 04, 2008 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 04, 2008 5:52 pm)

I trust CR since they ask a lot of people questions who have bought the car.
 
Only if they are subscribers to Consumer Reports.
 
Anyone know if the 17" wheels on 2009 Mazda6 will fit on 07 Mazda6 i?
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mazda problems by tgozdalski1
Sep 04, 2008 (8:43 pm)
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I don't own mazda 6 but I do own 2003 MPV with 81k miles. At 60k it experienced very rough idle becoming worse over time - cause damaged vacum house. At 70k miles it refused to start - cause seized idle speed control valve. The same problem resurfaced at 79k. Original battery died after 3 years; second, auto zone battery died after 20 months. Right now I have hard to trace coolant leak. For comparison our 2000 honda accord lx 4 cyl 5 speed with 220k miles got me stranded only twice; battery first time, broken after market timing belt installed at 105k miles broke at 190k. It cost me $900 to fix the damage. Mazda is not bad but I do believe honda reliability is notch higher.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [moparbad] by m6user
Sep 05, 2008 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 04, 2008 7:52 pm)

Only if they are subscribers to Consumer Reports
 
So what? Is there sample model too small or does their data collection and analysis methods produce skewed or incorrect results? Can you prove it or is this just a gut feeling? Are Consumer Report readers proven to be less reliable or truthful than any other person off the street?
 
I certainly don't swear by CR but fail to understand why some are so suspicious of their results.
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Re: Reliability [kapaaian] by m6user
Sep 05, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: kapaaian (Sep 04, 2008 6:05 am)

Retired people have a lot of time on their hands and would certainly take the time the time to fill out surveys as well as to get minor things fixed. I don't believe they are sampled as much because the manufacturers are not as interested in that demographic.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [jeffb1124] by m6user
Sep 05, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: jeffb1124 (Sep 04, 2008 6:32 pm)

I think he was just making a point that every manufacturer can produce a problem car which is kind of what you're saying. I have almost 18000 on an 07 Mazda6 I4 and have only had one tailpipe hanger adjustment in 13 months beside oil changes etc. But will I sit here and swear that Mazda6s or Mazdas are absolutely trouble free.....heck no. Now if I had owned 5-10 Mazdas and they had all been trouble free or trouble prone I would be commenting big time---one way or the other.
 
The problem is the people with problems are the people who will report back to the surveys stating the problems they've had, while the owners who haven't had a problem won't bother since they have nothing to complain about
 
I agree with you. However, if you asked 100 Charger owners and 100 Mazda owners if they had problems and 50 Charger complainers were noted and only 20 Mazda complainers were noted, couldn't you assume that there were more problems with Chargers. On the reverse according to your theory, only 50 Charger owners were problems free and kept silent....while 80 Mazda owners were problem free. That's why large sample are done. They don't just sit back and see how many complainers pop up.
 
Believe me, companies and politicians pay big bucks for surveys and they wouldn't if they weren't valid and didn't provide a good return on investment.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [jason777] by aviboy97
Sep 05, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: jason777 (Sep 04, 2008 5:52 pm)

What engine did you have? The 03-04 3.0L V6 did have throttle body issues.
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Private Launch Bonus Cash by gfo
Sep 05, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Hello, does anyone know if you can combine the private launch bonus cash of $1,000 with the S plan? The terms and conditions reads "The private launch bonus cash purchase incentive program cannot be combined with any other owner loyalty or private incentives but can be combined with other public offers including but not limited to customer cash back, finance and apr incentives/offers." Thanks.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [m6user] by moparbad
Sep 05, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 05, 2008 6:45 am)

A biased sample is a statistical sample of a population in which some members of the population are less likely to be included than others. If the bias makes estimation of population parameters impossible, the sample is a non-probability sample.
 
So what? Is there sample model too small or does their data collection and analysis methods produce skewed or incorrect results? Can you prove it or is this just a gut feeling? Are Consumer Report readers proven to be less reliable or truthful than any other person off the street?
 
A biased sample causes problems because any statistic computed from that sample has the potential to be consistently erroneous.
 
If entire segments of the population are excluded from a sample, then there are no adjustments that can produce estimates that are representative of the entire population.
 
By only selecting from CR subscribers there is an inherent bias. Only the demographic represents subscribers is utilized. The number of responses for some vehicle models is not statistically large enough to produce accurate results.
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Re: Mazda6 Reliability [moparbad] by backy
Sep 05, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 05, 2008 2:29 pm)

The number of responses for some vehicle models is not statistically large enough to produce accurate results.
 
If there aren't enough responses for a specific model, CR doesn't publish results for that model.

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