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Re: Mazda6 [keitha3] by moparbad
Sep 03, 2008 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: keitha3 (Sep 03, 2008 8:10 pm)

Mazda has probably been a tad above average overall as a company
 
Mazda has below average reliability scores.
 
And much higher than average fun factor.
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Re: Mazda6 [heybroder] by mz6greyghost
Sep 04, 2008 (3:50 am)
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Replying to: heybroder (Sep 03, 2008 6:27 pm)

I've got a '04 6 V6 with 70K miles on it, and the only problem I've had was a faulty gas cap that tripped the Check Engine light, replaced under warranty. Those miles aren't all easy-does-it either, since I drive my car HARD on a daily basis.
 
I'll agree with other posters, ANY car purchase is a risk. For me, I'd rather have fun behind the wheel instead of buying a vanilla-themed Camry because of it's "supposed" better quality.
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Reliability by kapaaian
Sep 04, 2008 (6:05 am)
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Mazda Reliability is kinda a hard thing to really get a grasp on due to a couple factors. These being the type of car, and thus buyer, they attract. And second, the age.
 
Of full car lines, Mazda has the youngest demographic of any brand. Only Scion skews slightly younger, and that's obviously not nearly as diverse a product line.
 
Also, Mazda buyers tend to be enthusiast. Put young and enthusiasm together and you get people who will notice things in their cars.
 
I know that I'll notice a little rattle in my car that only happens when exiting an off ramp at 50 mph while someone with a honda accord or toyota camry won't notice that because they'll never take an off ramp at 50. Young people in general demand more from their products and cars than people beyond then. Also, young people tend to not have kids or other responsibilities. They have the time to take a car in for something minor. A house-wife/house-husband has kids to juggle. They could car less about the little click coming from their back window when they open and close it and oh, it went away before they brought it in for their oil change. (Seen that happen exactly.)
 
What I've seen with Mazda reliability first hand is this.
 
Miata and Mazda3. Bullet proof. Even consumer reports says so. Now check JD power numbers for the mazda3. They're horrid. In fact, they pull the entire line down. Why? Youth and enthusiasm, and volume.
 
Mazda6. Started kinda bad, but evened out a lot toward the end. 2008's were probably on par with Mazda3's from 2007.
 
CX-7 and CX-9. Here's where it get's wierd. I have yet to see a single 7/9 with any engine or transmission problem. With the 7, there were a couple of gas cap recalls and ECM updates and a fuel filler spout replacement on the 7, but nothing ever breaking down. Oh, so let's make the 7 well below ave for reliability. Hmm. Oh, and the bridgestone tires on the 7 don't last long. Try and get one with the goodyear eagles. As for the 9? Who the heck knows. They're been rock solid here and we're not exactly ideal weather here.
 
RX-8. Dumb people buying it = problems. The Renisis engine is made for being driven hard. I've seen an RX-8 with 150k on it. When someone asked him how he had so many with no problems, he said he drove the piss out of it. The vast majority of RX-8 engine problems are with the automatic because those people buy the car for the look, not for the performance. So they drive it 10 mph 1 mile to church and wonder why their engine goes.
 
Don't just trust surveys and reports. Heck, do you really think that there's such a huge difference in reliability between ford and mercury? Umm. No. It's the simple fact that the mercury brand appeals to people who may not notice/care as much.
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Re: Mazda6 [moparbad] by jeffyscott
Sep 04, 2008 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 03, 2008 9:05 pm)

Mazda has below average reliability scores.
 
Not that there is necessarily a whole lot of difference between "below average" and "average", but CR has Mazda right at average overall. See April 2008 issue, page 17 or April 2007, page 25.
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Re: Mazda6 [m6user] by jeffyscott
Sep 04, 2008 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 03, 2008 7:50 pm)

If you absolutely can't afford to pay for a major repair and you're going to keep the car 200k, then I would say you are a candidate for an extended warranty
 
Can you even get a 200K mi warranty?
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Re: Mazda6 [jeffyscott] by m6user
Sep 04, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 04, 2008 6:25 am)

I think you can get just about anything if the price is right. But I am certainly not sure as I've never tried. He would be covered drivelinewise with Mazda for 5/60k. Maybe an extended driveline policy only for 200k could be had with a high deductible.
 
It would probably be better to invest the money and let it compound to pay for a major repair down the road.
 
In the end, no matter which you go, it's still a crapshoot.
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Re: Mazda6 [jeffyscott] by moparbad
Sep 04, 2008 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 04, 2008 6:16 am)

Not that there is necessarily a whole lot of difference between "below average" and "average", but CR has Mazda right at average overall. See April 2008 issue, page 17 or April 2007, page 25.

 
I agree, not much difference between first and worst.
 
Vehicle Dependability 2008
 
I completely disagree with CR's sampling method (they only survey subsribers to CR) and am not a CR fan at all.
 
When you state that CR has Mazda at average, does that statement apply to Mazda as a brand or Mazda6 model only?
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Re: Mazda6 [moparbad] by jeffyscott
Sep 04, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 04, 2008 9:04 am)

While CR may have it's flaws, your link is about the JD Powers initial quality survey...a worthless measure, IMO and certainly having little or nothing to do with reliability. In any case, the IQS number for Mazda is 2.28 problems per vehicle, while average is 2.06 and Mazda is ranked 21st of 37 makes. Assuming we allow some range around the average number to be described as "average", I'd call Mazda average by that measure too.
 
The average ranking in CR for Mazda was for the make or "brand". Since the 2009 Mazda6 is a new model they would have no information on it's reliability.
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2007 Mazda 6 by aelsner
Sep 04, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Hi Everyone:
I am new to this forum. Need some advice and your comments.
Am in the process of getting a car for my 18 year old son.
Have been considering the Honda Civic LX and after I took him for a test drive yesterday, we walked into a Mazda dealer right next door. They offered me a brand new 2007 Mazda 6 car at $17,600. with Leather, etc except sunroof.
He explained reason why he has a 2007 in stock is that they sold '08s first since they had a more attractive programetc.
Anyway, what is your opinion re a Mazda 6, performance, reliability, etc. and can anyone comment on the price -
Best regards
Alfred
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Re: 2007 Mazda 6 [aelsner] by moveover
Sep 04, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: aelsner (Sep 04, 2008 10:10 am)

What was the MSRP on 2007?
 
I just bought a 08 Mazda6 VE with a MSRP of $22.1K for $17K before ttl. Just looked on the website of the dealer I bought from and they raised their listed prices by $500. Maybe some Mazda to dealer rebate ended at the end of August.

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