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#110 of 148 Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas
Apr 08, 2007 (9:27 am)
I would expect to see something along the lines of the '08 Tribeca grill on the new Forester, along with the concave body paneling and shoulder lines we are seeing on the Tribeca and Impreza.
Assuming the '09 Forester will get:
1) A 16.9 fuel tank (up one gallon from the current model)
2) The double-wishbone suspension, doing away with the strut towers in the cargo area, allowing for a flat cargo floor
3) Steering wheel controls
4) More leg and hip room for rear passengers, and
5)(Fingers crossed) a 5EAT with paddle shifters - at least on the turbo'd version - an update I think we'll probably see on the '09 Impreza as well.
All of that will address most of my complaints about my 2006 XT. And it goes without saying that if Subaru doesn't preserve the interchangability of the new Forester and Impreza models, like they have now, then they're nuts. A lot of the Forester's appeal, for enthusiasts at least, is being able to scavange the enormous Impreza aftermarket bin.
#111 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [dstew1]
Apr 09, 2007 (4:29 am)
Won't the double wishbone reduce height? I see those on Escape's/Tributes if I am not mistaken. Looks like a brush sweeper under there.
What are the advantages, disadvantages?
#112 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [kavoom]
Apr 09, 2007 (4:36 am)
Advantages are packaging, they reduce the amount of verticle space required in the rear trunk/hatch section for the struts and springs. They take up more room horizontally toward the center of the car. They also give a lower center of gravity in that they are lower to the ground and weight is lower down in the car. It is also my opinion that they handle a little better but that's debatable.
#113 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [paisan]
Apr 09, 2007 (9:28 am)
It would seem that the lower gravity is taken at the expense of ground clearance. Something I love in our forester. If I want handling, there's the Rex.
#114 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [tazereli]
Apr 09, 2007 (9:40 am)
I don't see how it's going to hurt ground clearance. I have great clearance on my Armada and it has Indy rear with double or triple wishbone rear suspension.
#115 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [paisan]
Apr 10, 2007 (9:23 am)
i must have taken your comment about them being lower to the ground as meaning less ground clearance. not my first mistake by any stretch,
#116 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [tazereli]
Apr 10, 2007 (9:58 am)
Sorry about that. I didn't actually make it clear. Essentially in a strut-type suspension you have the weight up high and the strut mounting points are higher in the car, near the rear passenger shoulders. With the double wishbone it's lower down near the base of the seat which allows for more room in the cabin and a lower center of gravity.
#117 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [tazereli]
Apr 10, 2007 (10:58 am)
The new suspension is very trick. Imprezzively compact (get it?).
Didn't seem like the Forester would sacrifice much clearance. And I understand your concern because our Legacy's control arms are much closer to the ground than any part of the suspension of our Forester.
Apr 10, 2007 (11:00 am)
Now that I've seen the WRX, I'll be thrilled if the Forester gets all those improvements plus two measly extras:
* VDC across the board
* 5EAT with Sportshift
VDC is much, much, MUCH more important in this class. Right now Hyundai has advertisements boasting that they make it standard, and Subaru is behind. Offering it only on some models in an SUV of any sort is suicide.
I hope the WRX gets a 5EAT phased in for MY2009, so the Forester should get it too, and on all models!
#119 of 148 Re: Good signs from the new Tribeca and Imprezas [paisan]
Apr 11, 2007 (4:08 am)
How high up off the ground your tub is, is not the same as ground clearance which is the lowest point hanging down, if I am not mistaken.
Ford Escapes are higher off the ground than a Forester, but due to those (I think wishbone suspension) things next to the wheels that are part of the suspension, they do not have a "higher" ground clearance. Next time you are behind an Escape/Tribute take a look at what I am talking about.
I have driven in ruts in Utah on pretty easy off road type stuff where those things would have been carving rocks and dirt or lifting the whole thing up in the air while bending no doubt while a Forester chugged along...
And thus my earlier question... I can see a better design, but you are still going to need some type of lateral structure you do not need on the straight down strut/spring setup on present Suby's. And that is going to seemingly have some impact on "clear" ground clearance.