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You are in the Subaru Forester
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Subaru Forester, Car Buying, Wagon
#196 of 225 Re: 2 years of ownership - disappointing [khool]
Nov 27, 2007 (9:16 am)
That's a bummer, sorry to hear about it.
What model did you get? I know the powertrains are different, is yours a 2.0l?
Though the Forester is only built in one plant (Gunma, Japan) and the interiors should be similar.
#197 of 225 Re: 2 years of ownership - disappointing [ateixeira]
Nov 27, 2007 (12:55 pm)
I have the 2.5 litre XS Luxury (leather, sun roof, climate control, etc.).
The car drives beautifully, it's just not built well. They've had to resort to things like stuffing rags under the carpet to take up kinks, sliding foam between panels to stop rattles, and even using double sided tape to keep exterior panels from falling off.
What irks me even more is that the dealer has no sense of duty-of-care when they have the car. I've had entire panels re-sprayed due to dealer carelessness (scratches), kick panels replaced (the dealer broke one) and had to replace a window due to overspray from having a panel repaired (the one the dealer scratched).
Don't know about you, but when I spend $45K on a new car, I expect it to be of reasonable quality and I expect the dealers who service the car and are representative of the brand to have a reasonable standard of service and care factor.
#198 of 225 Re: 2 years of ownership - disappointing [khool]
Nov 27, 2007 (1:23 pm)
$45k Australian, I'm sure.
Of course, you have the right to expect a trouble-free car, at least for the most part.
Sorry to hear about your dealer. We pay high prices here where I live, but service is generally quite good.
#199 of 225 Re: 2 years of ownership - disappointing [ateixeira]
Nov 27, 2007 (5:04 pm)
Perhaps you should switch dealers? This seems more of a dealer issue than a Subaru-specific issue.
#200 of 225 First week with a 2008
Nov 28, 2007 (6:02 pm)
I got a 2008 LL Bean last week. I guess it like a non-US XS Luxury, with leather, big glass roof, climate control, automatic transmission. I have already put 800 miles on it and it is a joy to use. It has averaged 27 mpg in rural 2-lane driving.
There was one problem - an imperceptible glitch in an electric window. After some discussion, the dealer agreed with what I was hearing and feeling, and replaced the regulator. He did not have one in stock, and so took one out of another new car and installed it while I waited.
#201 of 225 Re: First week with a 2008 [aatherton]
Nov 28, 2007 (10:30 pm)
an imperceptible glitch
And, yet, you perceived it! (Just kidding, of course.)
But seriously, did replacing the regulator fix the problem?
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#202 of 225 Re: First week with a 2008 [aatherton]
Nov 29, 2007 (6:51 am)
Did they switch to VW's supplier?
Just kidding. Never seen that problem on a Subie before.
#203 of 225 Re: First week with a 2008 [tidester]
Nov 29, 2007 (11:53 am)
" ... an imperceptible glitch. And, yet, you perceived it! (Just kidding, of course.) "
The full story....
I took a used 2006 manual for an extended 4-hour demo drive at one dealer (and filled it with $30 of gas). I told the dealer there was a glitch in the driver's window, but they said they could not notice it.
I rented a 2007 automatic from Avis for a day for another test drive, and the window was OK.
I went to another dealer and test drove a new 2008 LL Bean. I told that dealer the driver window had a glitch and I had seen it before. The salespeople could not detect it. I went into the showroom trying other car's windows and they were all OK.
I decided to buy that LL Bean IF the window was OK. The dealer had the Service Dept take the door apart and they could not see anything wrong so they greased the track and I was told all was well. I took delivery and the window still had the glitch.
Yes, the glitch was imperceptible to several salespeople and to the initial service people. This is because they were standing beside the open door working the button with a finger. Over the ambient noise of traffic and shop, they could not hear the momentary fraction of a second graunchy sound as the window rose up. And because they were not driving the car with their arm resting on the armrest, they could not feel the simultaneous momentary graunchy vibration in the door. As soon as I showed the Service Manager how to listen and feel, he immediately said "bad regulator". The window is now perfect.
A regulator that felt like that would not have cured itself. It would have been a constant irritant, undoubtedly growing worse. The window would become clunky. At some point it would become noticeable to anybody - maybe in months, maybe in years. I could not wait that long.
#204 of 225 Re: First week with a 2008 [aatherton]
Nov 29, 2007 (12:23 pm)
Thanks for the clarification. Glad you got that fixed!
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#205 of 225 Re: First month with 08 Forester XPrem
Dec 04, 2007 (1:45 pm)
I've got nearly 2k miles on the forester now. my only concern really is a bad front license plate mount for the right side of the front plate. the screws all the way in, but it doesnt tighten up like it should [and like the left side does], it just keeps turning. Any ideas? cause the plates are special state plates that are very cool and nice looking. and it would really settle my mind if all screws tightened well.
One thing I'm not sure of is checking tire pressure, does it need to be done every month or two? I've always had a tendency to keep the tire tester on the air valve too long, so generally, I figure 5-10 seconds of air a tire every two months or so will be fine. Opinions or advice?