Last post on Nov 08, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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#13 of 22 Re: Paint deterioration from bugs [jsweitzr]
Oct 21, 2007 (7:18 am)
Sounds like a good argument for keeping you car waxed
#14 of 22 Re: Paint deterioration from bugs [jsweitzr]
Oct 21, 2007 (11:33 am)
"... I could always remove the residue with bug & tar remover or even a high pressure spray because the thicker paint did not let it penetrate. These do not work on this newer vehicle..."
I understand there no chipping of the paint - the paint is intact.
Is the problem that the bug residue cannot be removed, or that when the residue is removed, the paint is discolored?
Surely the residue can be removed, so the problem must be that the chemicals in the residue have discolored the paint.
This would seem to be a function of the paint's composition more than its thickness.
Oct 23, 2007 (12:45 pm)
Bring back the unpainted cladding!
That stuff was awesome. You got a dent and it would actually pop out by itself, self-repairing.
Bring it back, please!
#16 of 22 Re: Cladding [ateixeira]
Oct 24, 2007 (4:21 am)
Isn't the cladding still there, but is now painted?
#17 of 22 Re: Cladding [aatherton]
Oct 24, 2007 (7:02 am)
Yep, but paint only flexes so much. It cracks and scratches more easily. So while it may re-shape itself, the damage is done.
#18 of 22 Re: Paint deterioration from bugs [jsweitzr]
Jul 13, 2008 (10:05 am)
As previous owner of a 2005 Legacy and also a new 2008 Outback I agree with your assessment about the bug/paint issue. If I leave bug splatter on my car, later when I clean the splatter off the car the paint and clear coat bubbles underneath and begins to deteriorate. Waxing is only a temporary fix. The occasional stone chip is not the issue here.
So what are we suppose to do wash the car instantly after we drive it? Put wax on it? please what a joke.
My 1998 Legacy NEVER had this problem. They have changed the quality of the paint and the thickness of the paint. Sheet metal is also thinner on the newer models.
The newer cars chip alot easier. Which confirms that the paint layer is not as thick as before. The bug splatter on the 2008 hood NEVER causes the paint to deteriorate only on the bumper. Paint adheres differenty on plastic then on metal and that's a fact.
I've washed and waxed my Subaru cars since 1993 and I have never noticed this problem before.
This is a big problem and GM has lost millions of customers because of there paint quality issues. I still don't like GM paint, even though they have improved it.
Bottom line, poor business decision.
Wake up Subaru before it's too late.
#19 of 22 Exterior care of new 2009 Forester
Oct 25, 2008 (8:25 pm)
Recently my wife and I purchased a 2009 Forester for her to drive (our first Subaru) and so far we've been very pleased with it. It has good performance and I like her driving a car with full-time 4WD, traction control, comprehensive air bags, etc.
My question is what products do you recommend for treatment of the exterior? We have been using a product called "Mothers' Back-to-Black Exterior Bumper & Trim Care" on the exterior plastic parts and "Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss Paste Wax" on the exterior metal. Does anyone recommend anything different?
Another issue has to do with CV joint boots. I have a friend who, years ago, convinced me to use silicone lubricant spray to periodically treat the CV joint boots in the hope of keeping the boot rubber from cracking. I know that some rubber/plastic parts do not "like" conventional silicone sprays and I was wondering if anyone knows if these are okay for use on the Forester. I have been using silicone spray on our 2000 Honda CRV AWD and have not had any problems...knock wood.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
#20 of 22 Re: Exterior care of new 2009 Forester [grafzeppelin]
Oct 25, 2008 (8:41 pm)
I have a 2009 Forester. I decided to go ahead and apply a clear bra to the front bumper and parts of the front fenders, hood and side mirrors. It cost around $600, but I think if you keep your car for a few years it's worth the cost. You just need to shop around for a reputable shop to get it done.
#21 of 22 Re: Exterior care of new 2009 Forester [grafzeppelin]
Nov 06, 2008 (7:33 am)
First and foremost keep it clean. Regular hand washing is the best thing you can do.
It's new so you're enthusiastic now, the trick is to stay motivated after it's a few years old.
I sold my old '98 Forester about 18 months ago and just saw it for the first time - I nearly cried.
It looked like it had not been washed since the guy bought it. The wheels were filthy with brake dust (I used to WAX those wheels), some stickers on it were half peeling off, and he had some old duct tape peeling off that looked like it was used to hold up the front bumper.
It was 9 years old when I sold it, and it looked like a 4 year old vehicle.
Now it's 11 years old and it looks like a 15 year old vehicle.
Nov 08, 2008 (6:28 pm)
Yes I know it's true. This is my wife's first brand new car and she's so happy with it right now. It really is a nice car and I want to do the best I can in keeping it that way...thank you for your input.