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Toyota Camry, Car Buying, Sedan
Oct 23, 2006 (7:52 am)
to play devils advocate...do we need this forum? It seams there are thousands of negative posts and you are trying to drum up some good will. Yet I do not see similar forums under Honda?
I admit I have a drum to beat. I noticed the fit and finish quality on my then new 2002 Camry was not up to Toyota par and pondered weather mechanical issues were to come. Could this be what we are seeing today?
Rattles aside, (and its crappy traction on wet roads), I feel my 2002 Camry is superior to any other sedan I have owned. Still, after reading the horror stories here I must admit I'd be concerned about buying new one...at least in the short term. Perhaps that is the intent of this forum....I just think its sad one is needed!
(We own a 2003 Camry and 2006 Rav and are not afraid to admit Toyota quality has taken a hit in recent years)
#5 of 81 New V6 - from '07 I4/5AT
Oct 23, 2006 (4:53 pm)
I just wanted to post a note here to describe my past 2 weeks with a new LE V6/6AT. I was one of the early purchasers (March) of an '07 Camry LE I4/5AT. I was also an early and vocal complainer about the hesitation and shift sensitivity of that vehicle. Without going into detail, and before the TSB was released to correct the problem, I finally worked a deal (thanks to my salesman and the Service Manager at Copeland Toyota, Brocktom, MA going to bat for me with Toyota) to trade up to an identical '07 LE with the V6/6AT. I have had the car for almost three weeks and I am really happy with it.
First, both cars were built in Kentucky and the build quality is superb on both vehicles (3/07 and 9/07). No vibrations, squeaks, or rattles. On the inside, other than the shift gate and shift display on the IP, you cannot tell the difference between the two cars. From the outside, only the dual exhaust tips give away the difference.
The V6 is a sweetheart of an engine; smooth, powerful, and quiet. It is also quite frugal - yes. I said frugal. Over the first 500 miles I have had two fillups and recorded a first tank average of 24.1mpg and a second tank average of 29.4mpg. I drive 60 miles a day on RT128 near Boston, which can vary from stop and go to 75mph on any given day, so I am quite pleased with this so far. My '03 averaged 29.65mpg over three years of use and the '07 I4 averaged 28.38 over 4900 miles of use.
The 6AT is a marvel in that it locks up in 2nd thru 6th gear and you would believe you are driving a manual transmission if you don't hammer the gas and get it to unlock anddownshift. It is not the smoothest shifting transmission I've driven, although still very smooth, but it is crisp (which I like) and still learning my way of driving.
Driving reveals the weight of the V6/6AT over the I4/5AT in that the car "pushes" more when taking corners at speed, but the car remains comfortable and gives the driver a confident attitude for a "family" sedan.
I will keep this forum posted as I get more mileage on the vehicle.
P.S. I moved to the '07 from an '03 I4/4AT which I really liked, and I am very happy that Toyota worked out the problems with the '07 I4/5AT.
#6 of 81 Thumbs up... so far!!!
Oct 23, 2006 (9:15 pm)
I will go out on a limb & say that My Camry SE V6 AT is for the most part problem-free.
I have owned it since 09/14/2006. It now has approximately 1200 Miles on it.
With the exception of a few bouts of herky-jerky gear-changing present in the Automatic Transmission at totally random times, & with no rhyme or reason. I don't notice any constant hesitations on my Camry, that others have mentioned both here and Toyota Nation.
I am smitten w/ my Camry!!!
#7 of 81 My view on the Camry
Oct 25, 2006 (4:23 am)
I purchased mine in april '06 and have over 12,000 miles on it already. Just had to put a full set of rotors on it, but had the same problem with my 300c Hemi. I have been very surprised and happy with my '07 Camry XLE V6. I traded a '05 Avalon in to get the Camry as I liked the handling MUCH better, and enjoyed the 6 speed over the 5. The Camry is smaller, but suits my needs fine. It also has excellent power and yet gets great mileage. I can push 28.5 at 78mph on the highway. Stop and go in town around 21. On secondary roads at 60 mph I got 34.9 in a 60 mile trip over the weekend. The JBL sound system is superb. I have noticed the SLIGHT hesitation, but I was somewhat used to it having had the Avalon. It is not as pronounced in the Camry. All in all it is a wonderful car that I would recommend to anyone. I liked it because of looks, dual exhaust, a sweet engine and great mileage on regular fuel.
#8 of 81 Our Experience Is Excellent
Oct 25, 2006 (6:20 am)
Our 07 Camry is problem free so far and is all that we expected of the reputation for quality that Toyota is known for. In spite of positive results I think most like us are experiencing, a few doomdsday prophets in these forums insist the company is on the ropes because of quality problems.
I came across a very good article by an unbiased source and offer the following excerpt in rebuttal to the naysayers:
"Toyota officials have openly acknowledged that the company's rapid growth, and its increasing reliance on plants around the globe, has strained its ability to maintain a gold-standard quality record. At a news conference in July, Toyota president Katsuaki Watanabe bowed deeply and apologized for the recall troubles.
"I take this seriously and see it as a crisis," Watanabe said at the conference. "I want to apologize deeply for the troubles we have caused."
Toyota may be going through a rough patch, but industry experts say the recall issue has to be viewed in context. Toyota's quality record is still tops in the business; in June, Toyota and Lexus captured 11 of 19 initial-quality awards handed out by industry watchdog J.D. Power & Associates. They just happen to be in the glare of the spotlight.
"They're the guys wearing the yellow jersey, so everyone's watching them," says James Womack, chairman of the Lean Enterprise Institute, a Cambridge, Mass., non-profit think tank dedicated to expanding the principles of lean manufacturing.
Womack believes Toyota officials are losing a lot of sleep over the recall issue and will redouble their efforts to have all employees follow the tenets of TPS. "I've been watching these guys for a long time, and they worry more than any group of people I've ever seen," he says.
"You can bet they're poring over their business processes to look for weaknesses. I'd also be willing to place a pretty high bet that Toyota will be able to come up with answers."
#9 of 81 No problems here.
Oct 25, 2006 (8:40 am)
For you beantown, and anyone else interested. Have owned the 07 Camry SE I4 5A since late spring and have had absolutely no problems of any kind. Aside from wishing Toyota offered more colours to choose from, the 'hesitation' problem some have experience was non existent from day one. Regardless, had the TSB EG056-06 applied which only improved the smoothness of the shifts. Very pleased.
#10 of 81 Different People=Different Viewpoints.
Oct 25, 2006 (9:02 am)
Drjames, I would suggest not getting too concerned about criticism of positive experiences by folks like us who actually like our cars. Everyone views given situations in different ways. What may seem to some as a serious flaw in their new car may be viewed as nothing of any consequence by another. "Buyer's Remorse" is a common affliction, where the expectation of some kind of "Life Change" after a purchase of a new car doesn't materialize. I get a sense that quite a few of the criticisms of the Camry that I've seen are manifestations of the Buyer's Remorse syndrome.
Don't forget the statement quoted in my earlier posting where it's noted the guys with yellow jerseys are often dissed by follow on competitors. That's life!