Last post on Mar 12, 2007 at 12:08 PM
You are in the Subaru Forester
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Subaru Forester, Mazda CX-7, Car Buying, Wagon
Jan 16, 2006 (7:13 pm)
I'm not sure that it would appeal to the same buyer profile. It looks quite nice but very car derivative, whereas the Forester has a definitely more rugged appeal.
Jan 20, 2006 (10:03 am)
I love how it looks, it's just stunning, best looking SUV on the road IMO. They price it lower than I expected, too, enough that I would consider one. I'm sure the Limited models will add a couple of grand, so prices should fall between the Forester and Tribeca.
Subaru could counter with a LWB Forester, a Grand Forester, that would have a bigger interior.
But the CX-7 is more likely to go after 5-passenger Tribeca buyers due to the progressive styling.
The 2.3l is a Mazda mill and has done well, but the turbo and direct injection are basically new. It's de-tuned from the engine in the MazdaSpeed6, though. The AWD is also not as sophisticated (Haldex, part-time).
Still, looks good. Competition improves the breed.
#24 of 31 Re: CX-7 [ateixeira]
Nov 26, 2006 (7:56 am)
Saw my first CX-7. Guess I was underwhelmed. Of course, the Forester is nothing to look at either. I have a feeling real world gas mileage would be in the same league as the RDX, which can be dismal to say the least. Was never hot on Mazda.
I somewhat disagree with the comments on brand loyalty. I like to move on in my cars. Even when I'm happy with a make/model, I move to a different manufacturer. Exceptions: Ford (2 cars and no more), Nissan (3 cars and no more), Toyota (2 cars). Subaru, BMW and Honda I can see buying again.
#25 of 31 CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives
Feb 26, 2007 (6:43 pm)
Was in the market this mo for a new car - tested CRV, RAV4, CX7 and Forester. All different vehicles, but the look of the CX7 beats all - just a sucker for Mazda's "soul of a sports car" shtick. Nicely appt'd, love the look of the cockpit, radio controls on wheel; had a bit more end sway than any of the others. Premium fuel a real turn-off. In the end, I had to consider price. Comparably equipped - CRV and RAV4 21K, CX7 24K, Forester 19K. Went with the Subie. Maybe when replacing the family car, and the CX has been out for a while...
#26 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [massdem68]
Feb 27, 2007 (7:58 am)
Congrats. The Forester X is a great value, they cost less than my 1998 Forester L did ($19,300 in August '98), despite lots more content.
#27 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [massdem68]
Feb 28, 2007 (11:20 am)
just a sucker for Mazda's "soul of a sports car" shtick
Mazda's Zoom Zoom ads have the opposite effect on me. IRC the 1st featured the Tribute running with a group of Miatas. All I could think was get real! It's a friggin rebadged Ford Escape for heaven's sake! Now if Porsche did a similar ad with the Cayenne and the 911 then I'd find it a lot more credible
#28 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [p0926]
Feb 28, 2007 (12:31 pm)
The Cayenne is built on a VW sourced platform (Touareg).
The V6 engine is VW's 3.6l as well.
It's a transverse, front-mounted V6, rather than Porsche's typical rear/mid longitudinal boxer engine.
Fact is, the Subaru B9 Tribeca is closer to a real Porsche than the Cayenne is. At least the engine is a boxer and it's mounted longitudinally.
OK, it's like a Porsche driven in reverse, but still.
#29 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [ateixeira]
Mar 01, 2007 (5:18 am)
Are you sure about that transverse? I'm fairly certain the Cayenne, Toregue and Q7 all have long. mounted engines although I haven't seen the V6 in them.
I drove the Cayanne and found it to be ok but nothing to write home about. Also the car was significantly wider outside than it was inside so there was a lot less room than you'd expect from the outside dimensions.
#30 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [paisan]
Mar 01, 2007 (8:50 am)
Who knows, Kia and Hyundai actually put an engine cover on that makes it look longitudinal even though they're transverse!
I'll pop the hood next time I see one.
#31 of 31 Re: CX-7 vs Forester - Feb 07 Test Drives [paisan]
Mar 12, 2007 (12:08 pm)
I'm fairly certain the Cayenne, Toregue and Q7 all have long. mounted engines
That is correct.