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Re: Hyundai Elantra: Towing Questions [Mr_Shiftright]
by backy
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Dec 09, 2006 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 09, 2006 9:16 am)
I wonder if anyone is in the back seat or if the cargo area is loaded up? With that size of trailer, keeping the rear lightly loaded would be a good idea.
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Re: Hyundai Elantra: Towing Questions [backy]
by doohickie
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Dec 09, 2006 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 09, 2006 11:05 am)
It's the same car in the first two pics; I don't know for sure, but I'll bet the back is pretty loaded up.
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Re: Hyundai Elantra: Towing Questions [doohickie]
by tsgeisel
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Dec 11, 2006 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: doohickie (Dec 08, 2006 6:38 pm)
How old is that first picture, with full-service gas at 92.4c/gal?
Or is that, maybe, liters and not gallons?
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Re: Hyundai Elantra: Towing Questions [tsgeisel]
by backy
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Dec 11, 2006 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: tsgeisel (Dec 11, 2006 2:40 pm)
Well, it's a fairly old Elantra--2003 or earlier.
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Re: Vehicle Towing [backy]
by eldaino
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Dec 12, 2006 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 08, 2006 3:04 pm)
Maybe because honda realizes that anyone who wants to tow something of significance they should look into a different vehicle, and yes they do state what its towing capacities are, so i don't know what you mean about 'rating' the civic for towing. If anything the 5 speed tranny is more than up to it over the ancient four speed that still found its way into the new elantra. Lack of torque? Look at the numbers backster. You can see that the amount of torque that the elantra has over the civic is miniscule at best.
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Re: Vehicle Towing [eldaino]
by backy
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Dec 12, 2006 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 11:32 am)
I looked up the towing capacity of the Civic in multiple places and it was always "0". Did you find some other data? What is your explanation for why the Elantra is rated to tow more than the Civic?
Elantra torque: 136
Civic torque: 128
Not a huge difference... but maybe a significant difference when it comes to towing.
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Re: Vehicle Towing [backy]
by eldaino
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Dec 12, 2006 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 12, 2006 11:40 am)
Backy 9lbs of torque wouldn't make any kind of significant difference! The towing capacity is in the manual that comes with the car, which i don't have anymore. But the civic is CAPABLE of towing, just as much as an elantra would be. Is it stupid to sit here and say 'my elantra can tow more than your civic?' Yeah. Why? Because nobody cares. That contest is much better suited to an suv or truck for goodnessakes! Even though i don't have the actual number on hand....i'm pretty sure the elantra does not edge the civic out in this regard. And if it does wtf cares?! And don't come to me with all this 'there may be a small portion of sedan buyers who take this into consideration' crap becuase i guarantee if they do exist, they are this itsy bitsy minority who have to much time on their hands and probably WOULD gloat about how much their elantras can tow. P to the lease.
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Re: Vehicle Towing [backy]
by eldaino
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Dec 12, 2006 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 12, 2006 11:40 am)
Where did YOU find the info on how much the elantra could tow? And if you did....how do you know it edges out the civic if you don't even know what the civic can tow?
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Re: Vehicle Towing [eldaino]
by backy
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Dec 12, 2006 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Dec 12, 2006 12:07 pm)
I already posted a link to the Elantra's towing figures. They are easy to find by searching on your favorite search engine.
Finding the Civic's towing info is a little more difficult, but here are some references:
http://autos.yahoo.com/honda_civic_hybrid_cvt_at_pzev-specs/?p=all
http://autos.yahoo.com/honda_civic_coupe_dx_5_spd_mt-specs/;_ylt=Agi23QZw_N7KX4R- - Alw8I58urn9EF?p=all
http://autos.yahoo.com/honda_civic_sedan_dx_5_spd_at-specs/;_ylt=Agi23QZw_N7KX4R- - Alw8I58u0n9EF?p=all
So for the Civic MT coupe, Civic AT sedan, and Civic Hybrid, towing is "Not Recommended". To me, being rated by the manufacturer to tow 750 pounds w/o trailer brakes and 1500 pounds with trailer brakes more than edges "Not Recommended".
Edit: here's another reference, from Edmunds.com. They can't even find published info on the Civic's towing capacity! Honda must be very proud of it. 
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmunds/VehicleComparison?styleid=100812874&maxv- ehicles=5&op=17&tab=specs
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Re: Vehicle Towing [backy]
by eldaino
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Dec 12, 2006 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 12, 2006 12:41 pm)
just because edmunds and yahoo couldn't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist; i've seen the figure, i just cant remember it. Common sense will tell you that there is nothing that elantra has that makes it more tow worthy than the civic. (oh wait i forgot the 9lbs of torque!) come on backster get real! "not reccomended" edging out 750 lbs? if its not been published how can they not reccomend it? Did that ever strike you? The civic can tow, BUT NOT THAT IT MATTERS. I would rehash my last post because you still managed (in classic backy form) to avoid the obvious point of wtf cares. Most people shopping for these cars DONT. End of story.
(Feel free to post the inevitable 'elantra can tow and civic apparantly can't ha ha ha' rants below. It still wont change anything including the fact that just becuase the civics numbers are not published, they do in fact exist and when i get my hands on a manual i will prove it to you AND even if the numbers are smaller than the elantras, the matter of IT REALLY DOESN"T matter will still stand. You give people a hard time for bashing hyundai backs but a lot of times it just seems like your gunning for honda on the most miniscule things. Whatev. Happy Towing. {not really the end of story huh?  })
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