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2415 messages, Last post on Feb 12, 2007 at 4:41 AM
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Replying to: torque_r (Feb 10, 2007 7:40 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Feb 09, 2007 1:21 pm) Gm has been improving quality for years so this is not a new process that they have just begun. As for recalls and setbacks, last time I checked Toyota is recalling more vehicles in the US than GM. I havent heard of any major GM recalls for quite some time. You are speaking of corporate scandals and recalls as if GM has been awash in them lately. I cant even recall the most recent GM corporate scandall. GM's bad news has centered around losses and it's SUV heavy lineup of late. If you notice, most negative coverage of GM doesnt focus on quality. In some ways that is old news and even GM hating publications like the NYT and others dont harp on GM's quality. Most articles will tell you that GM's quality is on par with Toyota and HOnda but the public doesn't get it yet. |
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Replying to: jcgable (Feb 11, 2007 10:49 am) |
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Replying to: 1487 (Feb 11, 2007 1:43 pm) Maybe that is because GM refuses to issue recalls and would rather pay attorney fees to fight them? Remember the side saddle gas tanks on pickups? "BTW, no one who likes the Pilot should be criticizing GM's plastics because the HOnda is FULL of rock hard plastics." I never criticized GM plastics, but come to think about it, I seemed to have problems with various little knobs, levers, and other pieces that would break off in my 2002 Pontiac. At least on my Honda's they are just cheap looking but stay intact.
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Been gone for a week and all stuff breaks loose. All this anti-Toyota talk. Guys let it go a little bit. I mean GM has to earn back customers and they are not going to win them overnight. Honda and Toyota didn;t win their cutomers overnight. 1487: I saw you had a point on Lexus and that they don;t sell that many cars. They were the leading US luxury brand seller last year. Also, I saw you had a point about Toyota not selling cars on styling and I agree but when has selling an Impala or Malibu sold for the styling for GM? Toyota is just bread and butter like Chevy or Ford. Also on your post above you say they are so many Camry's sold well GM sells alot of SUV's so I guess you wouldn;t buy one?
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Replying to: rwisem (Feb 11, 2007 7:13 am) Actually Pontiac G6 and Ford Fusion outsold Mazda 6 in 2006. Here are some numbers for you: Mazda 6: 66K units sold in 2006 Pontiac G6: 157K Hyundai Sonata: 149K units Ford Fusion: 142K units
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 09, 2007 6:14 pm) I disagree with your opinion because this is not the 80's anymore. Mitsu, Toyota, and Honda all have workers in the US so I think they hav a right to lobby congress. Rocky, I respect you as a poster on this board but I disagree with you on this. Like I said before, GM sells cars overseas just like honda and Toyota sell cars out of their home country.
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Replying to: 1487 (Feb 09, 2007 1:03 pm) Of course Toyota is going to take GM;s latest round of new product seriously. What do you think Toyota's not going to look at GM's latest round of products releases? Toyota is a very smart company and they always looking at whats going on with other brands. Toyota in the 90's Honda was stiff competition. Than Toyota saw Hyundai coming up a few years ago and acknowledged Hyundai's presecnce and now to me its no surprise that Toyota is taking notice of GM right now because of GM's new product releases and Gm is Toyota's biggest rival right now too. Even as an import guy I am taking notice of GM's latest round of product releases. |
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 09, 2007 7:41 am) I thought the Camry interior is way better than the Impala's. Oh well just differences in opinion. Just so you don't think I'm biased the last generation Camry(02-06) interior to me was not that good.
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Replying to: 1487 (Feb 08, 2007 11:22 am) The Celica and MR2 flopped because Toyota didn't market those 2 cars enough like they do the Camry and Corolla and Toyota at the time had a lack of appeal from younger buyers(when the last gen Celica and MR 2 were out and now as well.) GM has a history of chanfing names with its bread and butter 4dr sedans while toyota doesn;t. As for Acura the Vigor was not a bread butter product car. THE SLX I don't know if Honda expected it to be a big seller. The Integra/RSX doesn;t fit in with Acura's current product line so thats why the sports car got killed from the Acura Line. Acura is more up-scale now than they were 10 years when the Integra was its top seller. Infinti-Yeah they have changed and killed product names alot especially in the past 5 years. I'll give you that. |
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