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Re: Toyota [rockylee] by imidazol97
Feb 10, 2007 (5:58 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 09, 2007 7:45 pm)

We'll see how it goes when the Toyota company starts looking at average pay in those southern areas where plants have been built to establish their pay for the plant in the next negoatiation. That will probably curtail increases for sure.
 
The US companies will look at the same technique for justifying less than inflation increases along with other negotiation points.
 
Maybe they should look at CEO salaries for guidance. Do we count the CEOs in Japan and Korea or just the ones here in US for the foreign companies?
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Re: will work to lower wages in each area [cooterbfd] by montzter
Feb 10, 2007 (6:02 am)

Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 10, 2007 5:35 am)

"Only one question: If they unionize, does Toyota take their toys and go home, crying like a baby?"
 
My guess is this would probably be Toyota's options:
 
1: Stop building new plants here in the USA, and slowly reduce production with what they have here, making just enough to break even with the investment.
 
The market for Toyotas would then be filled with imports from Japan and other countries, thus resulting in the loss of the USA manufacturing jobs.
 
2: Toyota would refuse the UAW deal, the UAW members would strike, and Toyota would replace them with new workers.
 
I'm sure the Toyota gave a lot of thought to option 2 already, and located plants accordingly. They are in areas without UAW history, and people would be lining up to take the jobs paying the non-union wage.
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62' and y'all....... by rockylee
Feb 10, 2007 (6:05 am)
Guys,
 
Have any of you read anything more about the CTS-V. I've heard next spring as a 2009' model but of course that is a rumor. God, I wish I could get some confirmed info. If it's not going to be out until 2010' I'd just order me a 08' CTS or Sierra Denali. I really like the 08' CTS seeing it again in Motor Trend is enough to make me happy about it.
 
I guess my problem is if I get the 2008' CTS and the 2009' is so much cooler (hard to believe) then I will want a CTS-V. I don't want to make a mistake. I know that sounds awful because choosing a 08' CTS is buying smart !!!! The 600 horsepower "V" along with other performance upgrades is likely to be the closest thing I'll ever get to owning a Corvette, anytime soon.
 
So if you guys/gals know anything about the CTS-V, please post it here.
 
Thanx,
 
Rocky
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Re: Toyota [rockylee] by montzter
Feb 10, 2007 (6:05 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 09, 2007 7:50 pm)

"I have rode in a Pilot and driven a Trailblazer on several occassions and the Pilot is a buzzy, gutless, pile of doo doo."
 
Sorry, but I don't think that would be your response if you had driven one.....
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Re: Toyota [imidazol97] by rockylee
Feb 10, 2007 (6:08 am)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 10, 2007 5:58 am)

Maybe they should look at CEO salaries for guidance. Do we count the CEOs in Japan and Korea or just the ones here in US for the foreign companies?
 
Well those topics aren't up for review.
 
Rocky
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Re: will work to lower wages in each area [montzter] by rockylee
Feb 10, 2007 (6:21 am)

Replying to: montzter (Feb 10, 2007 6:02 am)

1: Stop building new plants here in the USA, and slowly reduce production with what they have here, making just enough to break even with the investment.
 
They aren't going to lose out on the oppertunity to make money over feuding with a union.
 
The market for Toyotas would then be filled with imports from Japan and other countries, thus resulting in the loss of the USA manufacturing jobs.
 
That's when the 110th Congress puts such a heavy tariff on their imports that buying a Camy would cost as much as a Lexus LS 460 Laugh, but if toyota tried to do this with a watchful media they would get painted very badly.
 
2: Toyota would refuse the UAW deal, the UAW members would strike, and Toyota would replace them with new workers.
 
I guess you've never seen a picket-line crossed in the South ???? Well in Kentucky, those folks take the body's into the mountains to be never found again.
Some picketer's the lumber if you know what I mean. Batter-up !
 
I'm sure the Toyota gave a lot of thought to option 2 already, and located plants accordingly. They are in areas without UAW history, and people would be lining up to take the jobs paying the non-union wage.
 
Well some of those people gave up good careers to go work in those Toyota factory's and if the Toyota greedy are willing to destroy the workers lives of those company's finacially then Toyota, has to reexamine its self.
 
They can afford to pay and should do the right thing.
 
Rocky
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Re: Rocky's Buicks [rockylee] by bumpy
Feb 10, 2007 (6:26 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Feb 09, 2007 6:24 pm)

I think Pontiac should aim for aggressive handling, while Buick should focus on a firm yet quiet ride (what you get in a mid-level Benz). The Grange already has Magnaride, so there's no reason a Buickized Statesman couldn't have it. I should note for 62's benefit that what I consider a "rebadge" allows for modifications to the sheet metal and interior styling.
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Re: Toyota [montzter] by rockylee
Feb 10, 2007 (6:27 am)

Replying to: montzter (Feb 10, 2007 6:05 am)

So I need to go actually drive one ??? How it that going to change my feelings on it being very buzzy ????The SUV has what 265 hp right ??? Well my 5.3 V8 in my SUV did it all better IMHO
 
The Pilot had a marginally better ride. See I gave it a positive response.
 
Rocky
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Hey - Look at this article: by montzter
Feb 10, 2007 (6:28 am)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070209/ap_on_bi_ge/gm_turnaround
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Re: Rocky's Buicks [bumpy] by rockylee
Feb 10, 2007 (6:34 am)

Replying to: bumpy (Feb 10, 2007 6:26 am)

Okay,okay, they are all nice cars but unless you plan on importing both off these cars it' not going to work
 
We will see. I still wished they would of made me a 7.0
LS-7 HSV Commodore.
 
Rocky

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