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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 12:46 pm) Nah what import lovers like is reliability (or at least the reputation there of). In addition some people love gadgets (like you) and others don't care for them (like me). Not all imports lovers buy cars for the same reason. German import lovers like the way the German imports drive. Hyundai buyers like the low price. Honda buyers like reliability with a dash of spottiness. Toyota buyers like reliability, and a dash of Buick. Niassan doesn’t have great realability, so don’t know what their draw is. Luxurty import buyers buy because the car is expensive and forgen(i.e. something not as many can afford like say cadalic). In short there are multiple reasons to go import. I don't want a sun roof (not my thing), leather seats (too hot in the summer) or heated seats (Who want to have a hot backside and a cold front side?). Heck I really don't car about power locks and mirors. It is hard to lure people with options they don't want\can't use. (I.e. Bluetooth, don't have a phone or other item that can use Bluetooth and don't want to bet that a future item is not only compatible with the car, but useful in it as well). Frankly to be honest putting a million options in the car and hoping it will sell because of it seems so old school to me. All I can think about is how much that darned sun roof is going to cost me if it get damaged. When are the heated seats going to break? I don’t care if it was made by Toyota and blessed by the Pope, any option in that car is going to break. Might break in 6 months might break in 12 years but it is gonna break. About the only options I care about are radio with mp3 player and air conditioning. Otherwise nope, nada. In addition I don't think people think Toyota can do no wrong. Everybody makes flops. Some more recently than others and some more extreme than others and some more often than others. They are just darned happy not to have unexpected repair costs. If Toyota burns you, you won't be back and there are lots of folks like that. I on the other hand have had a great experience with my Trecel. It runs like a champ. Never left me stranded in 12 years. Yeah the engine has a defect that causes it to burn oil, but still it didn't do that till 120,000 miles (not a young car and just how long a cheap car is supposed to last?). About the only issues I am getting are now. Very unlike the two fords before it. In addition people like having the option of being able to keep the car for 200,000 miles even if they don't do so. Nothing ticks people off more than having to do an unexpected repair while still paying for the car (ouch!). GM has improved its reliability, but as I want something small (not the domestic's forte) and Toyota did a reasonably good job with my aunt's camery, my uncles corolla, my mom's Camry and latter Avalon and my own trecel. I will look at the Yaris first and then other car makers. It is very hard to convince a satisfied customer to swicth and 3000 bucks isn't a lot of cash when you are talking about a car that you plan to keep 5+ years. Trust me my mom probably spent more than that much repair the two dometics before the Toyotas. The reason why Toyota gains market share is because they tick fewer people off than GM(perhaps having fewer options to break helps. Less reason to have to go back to the dealer). And, they offer compeling product that the dometics don’t seem to have(like the puris). I am sorry, but if people are willing to spend 3,000 more dollars for a Toyota, then perhaps GM has got it’s pricing wrong. If you want hp Toyota is not for you, but if you want something small reliable, fuel efficient then you might want to check them out. |
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 18, 2007 6:24 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 18, 2007 6:21 pm) Sappiness can be positive...some of MBs heritage ads have been very sentimental...but are really some of the classiest car commercials ever.
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Replying to: fintail (Jan 18, 2007 6:31 pm)
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Replying to: lemonhater (Jan 18, 2007 6:26 pm) Toyota recalls 533,000 Trucks |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 18, 2007 6:26 pm) Although he never gave me a gold watch, he was a very generous man. He took my brother and me to our first major league baseball game, and whenever the vendors came around with their goods, he'd buy us something, even when we didn't ask first! So we got the whole shootin' match -- hot dogs, ice cream, cola, peanuts, etc.
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 18, 2007 6:36 pm) I think of spots like the MB 'Falling In Love Again', 'The Love Never Fades', and 'Reincarnation'...unforgettable ads for me. Caddy would be well advised to come up with such quality spots. |
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Replying to: british_rover (Jan 18, 2007 5:29 pm) Very well said. GM/Cadillac should exploit this in commercials while maybe paying respect to the older generation who still reveres Cadillac. |
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Replying to: lemonhater (Jan 18, 2007 6:26 pm) I personally would say Toyota, has much more across the board power than Honda.  Rocky
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 18, 2007 7:13 pm) The only sorta exception is RAV has an optional engine while CRV doesn't. But the 4-cyl CRV has more power than the 4-cyl RAV. Who woulda' thunk it?! 
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