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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 18, 2007 10:03 am) Aura XR for $25k with 252hp/6 speed G6 GTP for $26k with same powertrain Cobalt SS/SC for $22k with 205hp 2L Solstice GXP for $26k with 260hp CTS-V with 400hp for $50k SRX V6 for $37k STS V8 starting at aboutu $47k which is cheaper than E350 Impala SS/Grand Prix GXP for $28k with 303hp V8 '07 Malibu SS for $24k with 240hp Lucerne CXL V8 for $30k I would also put the 300, Fusion and Sebring on the list of cars that offer good value. Just a few examples off the top of my head. Yes, the C6 is a great value but its not the only value offered by GM. I already said the G35 is a good value compared to IS350 and 330. The M and FX arent such bargains though, the former goes up to about $60k loaded. I have no problem with the G35 so I dont see why you are trying to convince me its a bargain. It seems to me you arent basing value on features and performance, but brand image. If that is how you judge value than I can see why you dont think anything without a Japanese badge will seem like a good buy to you. The Accord, Altima and CAmry are all overpriced for what you get compared to the Sonata, Fusion, Aura, G6, Sebring, Mazda 6, etc. I see little "bang for your buck" in any of those three Japanese sedans unless you get base models with no options. Perhaps your experience with foreign car haters is why you have such disdain for domestic products. Sorry that you have encountered a lot of xenophobes in Atlanta, but that has nothing to do with the merits of the domestice vehicles in question.
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Replying to: 210delray (Jan 18, 2007 9:45 am) Nissan wants over $30k for an Altima SE with leather, Bose, sunroof, heated seats, etc. To me, that is a sign Nissan doesnt want my business. That is about $4000 more than a comparable Aura and all you get for that money is dual zone climate control, bluetooth, Bose and 18 more hp. Those items are not worth $4000 and that doesnt even take into account features found on the Aura that the Altima lacks.
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The January issue of the German mag "Auto Motor und Sport" gives the Corvette 4 out of 5 stars...so it looks like the Euro press isn't in on any kind of conspiracy.
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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 12:38 pm) However, since you mentioned Aura XR, here's what Edmunds has to say after the follow-up test: What Works: Excellent drivetrain, solid chassis, looks more expensive than it is. What Needs Work: Cheap interior materials, shallow trunk, some flawed ergonomics. For its interior, here's a quote from the article: "The Aura XR's interior has an attractive presentation, yet the materials still lack the refinement of the Japanese-label competition." As for the G35, it is not only a good value compared to IS350 and 335i, it is also a good value when comparing to the CTS. To sum it up, the G35 is pretty much the value leader in the entry level luxury sedan class IMO. You don't have to agree with me on this, I am just stating what I believe. Also, if the Accord, Altima and Camry are all overpriced then I guess we have too many suckers in this country huh?
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 18, 2007 3:09 pm) Have to wait till I see a 2008 CTS in person to confirm that. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 18, 2007 7:22 am) Rocky |
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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 9:29 am) Rocky |
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Replying to: lokki (Jan 18, 2007 11:27 am) Commercials - How about reality. How about a married couple mid,late 30's driving up to their mcmansion. Another one with a 40's professional looking woman (real estate?) driving in a upper middle suburb neighborhood. Another one with two couples (40's) going to a nice restaurant in a suburb late Saturday afternoon. Another with a well dressed guy leaving office and going to gym for workout. Need commercials that are real-life rather than stupid scenes that car is either not really capable of or no one with sound mind would ever do. |
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 18, 2007 4:26 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 18, 2007 4:26 pm)  Rocky |
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