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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 9:29 am) Hey, we agree -- I wouldn't touch a new Mercedes today with the proverbial 10-foot pole. |
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Replying to: carguy58 (Jan 18, 2007 8:45 am) Please,why do people take what is said about the future here as if it is true? The G6 may go rear wheel drove but the latest data is that it is still coming out in a few years as an Epsilon II. will it go RWD? maybe but there is no platform to build it on so I doubt it. GM cannot afford to come up with new platforms willy nilly for some small volume. And it sell too well to jsut drop it. My guess is that it will be Eps II and will be AWD in a very sporty package. maybe slightly higher price point for the AWD but the same area. |
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Replying to: lokki (Jan 18, 2007 9:44 am) Sounds like the same old GM to me. Actually it was not the hinges. The wire braided cable that hold up the tailgate in the down position corroded and could break. Cheap part but still had to be replaced and was recalled.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 18, 2007 9:53 am) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 16, 2007 4:30 pm) Even if GM tries, I won't switch back (at least not in near future). I can only buy what I can afford and meets my needs. My first hand experience of owning GM vehicles tells me that I can't afford GM - maintenance is just too expensive. "I suspect you'll be waiting a long time. Just like those with transmissions in Hondas that keep getting replaced every 30K until the "extended warranty" is out--guess who buys next service replacement after 100K mi??? Grin." The reputation, resale value, and information available at Edmunds suggest that CR-V is a much better pick than comparable GM vehicles. So, chances are you are b*ll-sh*t*ng. This is my last post in January. See you all in Feb (assuming the forum won't be closed by then).
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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 9:19 am) Can't agree with that. I've got a 1998 with 150K on it. Running fine, thanks. Neighbor down the road has a 1988? Century. Looks great, runs great. He's a used car lot manager someone told me. He drives a Mustang and his wife has something else. You can see all kinds of the H-body GMs around this area that are from pre1992, e.g., 1988 leSabres/Park Avenues. A neighbor buys and sells older GMs as a fun business. He says they're good up to 250 or 300K mi. |
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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 9:13 am) and whose fault that is? Apparently I just found out earlier today that Japan doesn't charge tariff on imported vehicles but US does... Did I say anything about all imports in Japan are crap and that's why they don't sell? Oh by the way, I don't know where you live but in Atlanta I know several people whom bash imports constantly and would never consider them. They also don't have any specific experience with the imports either. For some reason, those hatreds are stronger toward the Japanese than German. I wonder why? I agree with Lexus got expensive but to put Infiniti in the same category would be too much of an exageration. One can have a G35S (with 306 HP, HID, sports suspension...) for under $34K. Expensive? I don't think so. To me, "value" means "best bang for the bucks", so far I haven't found anything GM has yet to offer for me willing to "bang my bucks on" except the 'vette. As long as you only compare Japanese brands with other Japanese brands they look good. Nope, I could compare Japanese to domestic in every category and will find the better value being Japanese (to me at least). Again, Corvette will be the only exception.
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Just saw another chink in the perception armor. Honda is recalling 80,000 Accords for airbag problems. Bad wiring harness?, they say. 
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Replying to: 1487 (Jan 18, 2007 9:29 am) Yeah MB, VW/Audi do sell tons of cars but thats because of the prestige factor of Germans makes in the US. For the record for me I like VW's interiors but I couldn;t consider them over a Domestic or the Asian makes. Even Consumer Reports the past few years rates Domestic makes better than European makes. Hyundai meanwhile sells their cars cheaper than the Japanese Big 3 with a 10 year warranty. The only Hyundai I like right now is the new Santa Fe. I would buy a Santa Fe if I needed a truck and they are made in the US now I think too which is good. For the record people think European makes are more reliable than Domestics from a perception standpoint. Didn;t you see Detroit news's article a week ago on European, Japanese, and Domestic Car Avoiders? The survey of people thought the European Makes were more than Domestic makes. The survey said 70% of people would avoid buying a domestic because of suspect reliability. Only 19% of the people were concerned about European Makes reliability. "The most perplexing is MB because their products are very overpriced and yet people are willing to pay more to get a problematic vehicle while thumbing their noses at those intellectually (and financially) inferior motorists driving pedestrian Detroit iron, including Cadillac." Again heavy prestige factor with Mercedes vehicles in the US which people think justifies their heavy price tag but than again Caddy did outsell Mercedes in the US in 2005. Caddy sold 235K units in 2005 compared to around 224K that MB sold in 2005. However MB did outsell Caddy in the US in 2006. Caddy sold 227K units in 2006 as oppposed to Mercedes 248K units sold in the US in 2006. I think Mercedes really had demand for the new M-Class SUV which boosted their sales in 2006 in the US. I think the new S-Class has been a good seller while the R-Class I think has been a flop. For the record I think MB has some of the best styling in the industry right now. I don;t think you can cry about Caddy. THE CTS and Escalade have been hits. I mean Caddy has really slashed years off their average age buyer in the US since release of the 2nd generation Escalade in 2001 or 2002 since the First Escalade was basically a rebadged Chevy. THe CTS has lured more younger buyers than in the 90's in Caddy;s showrooms. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 18, 2007 9:53 am) Sounds like the same old GM to me. Actually it was not the hinges. The wire braided cable that hold up the tailgate in the down position corroded and could break. Cheap part but still had to be replaced and was recalled Thanks for the clarification. However, the point remains unchanged, regardless of the specific part. GM warranty folks remain more concerned with controlling costs than fixing a (potential) problem. Instructions were to replace both and the zone manager was not doing so, to keep costs down.
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