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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 14, 2006 10:21 am) 
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Replying to: ray_h1 (Sep 14, 2006 11:23 am) quote ray_h1 -On the other hand, J.D. Powers & Associates surveys are paid for by the automakers and conducted among owners who've bought the car(s) being surveyed and received an extra free tank of gas from the dealership for a perfect score. -end JD Powers funds all of it's own syndicated research, the automakers do not fund the research. JD Powers conducts it's automotive research using a larger sample size of owners than does CR, which decreases error. JD Powers also does not limit itself to one demographic group  (such as subscribers to Consumer Reports).
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 19, 2006 12:18 pm) "Marketing information firm J.D. Power and Associates (best known for its car ratings) awards badges of excellence in dozens of categories based on yearly customer satisfaction surveys. Its studies are independently financed and then sold for use in marketing." I don't doubt for one moment that Consumer Reports testing methodology and reporting skills leave something to be desired in some instances (particularly in vehicle tests), but the organization's integrity is beyond reproach. Their surveys also list the areas of quality concerns on a sliding scale which neither auto enthusiast magazines nor J.D. Powers make any effort to take into consideration. (But, then, that would impact their advertising revenue in the first case or sales to their corporate clients in the second case, wouldn't it? )
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Replying to: ray_h1 (Sep 20, 2006 8:56 am) It is not their integrity that is question, it is their competency that is in question. And I am happy to see that you agree.  Do you honestly think that small sample size and only obtaining survey data from those who fund Consumers Union is a sound basis of obtaining accurrate, unbiased information? Perhaps you believe that JD Powers surveys are biased toward Chevrolet Cobalt  since you are implying that the auto manufacturers are somehow paying for great ratings. Chevrolet's payment must have bounced since the Cobalt and it's predecessor the Cavalier are poorly rated. 
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 20, 2006 3:00 pm) |
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Replying to: moparbad (Sep 20, 2006 3:00 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Sep 21, 2006 6:58 am) Yeah, that would be those who have a blind bias towards GM vehicles. I believe their top tested vehicles in this segment are the Civic, Mazda 3 and Focus. Seems on target to me. As far as having "car" guys evaluating the handling of cars, they're competent as is. They appreciate the driving feel of a BMW as much as the next guy. My biggest beef with JD Powers is all "problems" are given the same weight. Not to say Powers doesn't have value, the automakers do pay for their data afterall.
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Replying to: venus537 (Oct 07, 2006 4:28 pm)
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Replying to: poncho167 (Oct 08, 2006 8:44 am) And they differ from this supposed bias from other auto publications how? They're certainly not alone in rating cars such as the Civic and Mazda 3 above the Cobalt. They're road tests are more comprehensive and thorough than enthusiast and other magazines. I don't read the magazine regularly but I don't recall any unprofessional and novice comments.
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