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#337 of 432 Re: 2009 Accord TPMS Question [tallman1]
Sep 09, 2010 (3:01 pm)
I wasn't sure it would either, but was really hoping for a miracle lol.
At this point I'm really hoping that the Michelin Customer Service comes through for me, they seemed really helpful and took all of my info which is hopefully a good sign but I will keep the board posted as to what happens next.
BTW...in case anyone was wondering what dealership I have been dealing with, it's Bay Ridge Honda in Brooklyn, NY
#338 of 432 Re: 2009 Accord TPMS Question [mrbill1957]
Sep 09, 2010 (3:06 pm)
Actually I should have worded it correctly....tires do not have serial numbers. They have DOT numbers which basically tell you the month and year the tire was manufactured. Three of my tires are all the same and then the fourth is different and after closer inspection the fourth tire is actually a different model as well.
I learned all of this information from the Michelin Customer Service Dept. who were very helpful and also very clear that the tire was definitely switched at some point because brand new cars would all have tires with the same DOT number.
But it basically comes down to my word against theirs, but I know that I have never taken the car to another shop for work and have never even had a flat tire that I would have needed fixed.
Sep 09, 2010 (3:13 pm)
well, no idea on the TPMS, but I highly doubt it does. especially if it is the more simple versin, which just indicates a tire is low.
not sure what the serial # has to do with it. I would be shocked if the dealer actually recorded the #s when the car was delivered, You would see this if you bought aftermarket (at a tire shop) and got a road hazard warranty. But on new cars? Can't believe it.
and Honda at the factory has a giant supply of tires sitting around. Entirely possible that you got 3 produced at about the same time, and 1 from a different run.
You don't mention the mileage, but I doubt it is very high. Tires have a tread wear warranty on them anyway (through michelin), so if nothing else, you would likely get a decent discount on the new one for that.
That price is also pretty high. You can certainly stop at an authorized michelin shop to have them look at it, and they can also handle any warranty replacement (and likely charge less for the tire to start with).
and there has to be a reason for a tire to wear that abnormally fast. If the alignment is way out, it can do it, That should be checked at the same time.
finally, the 9/10 I dont think is not a scale. It is an actual tread depth mesurement. New, it was 10/32" deep. so at 18 months, barely worn at all. 3/32 is pretty much at the wear bars, meaning time to replace.
that is the only way I have ever seen it presented, so I assume 9/10 means 9 out of the original 10 left. Unless they are doing some funny base 10 scale, but in that case, 3/10 would = ~9/32 anyway!
certainly a good idea to go back to have the dealer call michelin with you, but again, it really is not a dealer issue, it is a tire/michelin/you issue.
Sep 09, 2010 (3:16 pm)
tires have dot #s that tell month/day of manufacture. That is true. But they also have serial numbers, because I have had them written down when i bought tires and got the RHW.
honestly, the only other thing I can think of, as strange as it sounds, is that someone stole your wheel/tire, and replaced it with one that was shot.
the strange part isn't doing it (since you are in NYC!), the strange part is putting the old one on so you would not notice! that, and only doing 1.
Sep 09, 2010 (9:56 pm)
I know in our family, someone ran over a curb with one car, blowing the tire. They got one of the same type put on, but it was far lower on tread, to try and cover up their little 'Oops'.
Most tire shops have a rack of cast offs that they keep for just such an occasion, or for when someone brings a flat in that can't be patched.
Of course there is always the high likelihood of two Hondas with the same type rims getting tire service at the dealer, and some lackey mixing up part of one set with another while using the tire balancer. It's not unknown for a shop to temporarily borrow a wheel from a new car to troubleshoot something that they are having a hard time fixing - I would hope they would never use a customers wheel for that (and especially neglect to put it back!).
#342 of 432 Re: part 2 [jmillerjmiller]
Sep 15, 2010 (10:03 am)
Well, I just wanted to update everyone on the situation I have been dealing with regarding the tire on my Honda. We spoke to Michelin and found out that there is no way of finding out where a specific tire was sold to, but after explaining to situation to them, they advised us to go back to the Honda Service Center and then call Michelin back so that they could speak to the manager. It seemed to me that they weren't very surprised to hear my story either.
So we went back to Honda and after having a rep from Michelin speak to the Honda manager for over an hour, they were getting no where. Micheline ended up giving us 35% off a new tire just because of the agrivation we were going through, but Honda would do nothing. And on top of it, the Service Manager kept telling my husband that I had to be lying to him about ever getting a flat. Well, that basically ended our conversation with them and realized we weren't getting anywhere.
So it ended up costing us $192 for a new tire that should have never even been taken off in the first place. And the bottom line is that I would never go back to the Bay Ridge Honda Service Center again or even recommend it to anyone!! Our lease is also up in about 18 months and before this happened we were planning to buy a Pilot from the same dealership, but not after this...I would never give this dealership or service center another penny of my money and I would advise anyone that does go there not to just drop their car off for service and then leave because who knows what they are willing to do to the cars there.
#343 of 432 Re: part 2 [kris113]
Sep 15, 2010 (7:14 pm)
Can't blame you for not wanting to go back to that dealer. Amazing story.
#344 of 432 If you are being "Beaten" by your Honda.
Sep 21, 2010 (9:27 am)
I got the Goodyear Assurance Comfort Treds which gave me a quiet and very comfortable ride for my Harsh riding 02 Accord V6. Get 'em at a place that offers free rotations and balance. They do not handle precisely,or turn in quickly,but they are soft and quiet,compared to Michelin. Keep up with the rotations 'cause they won't last the 80k warranty. Hope this helps someone.
#345 of 432 Re: If you are being "Beaten" by your Honda. [blufz1]
Sep 22, 2010 (5:27 am)
Did something similar way back on a parents 1999 Accord LX-V6. Ditched the V rated Bridgestone Turanza tires for Goodyear Integrity 2 tires (IIRC they were T rated).
Going to the non-speed rated tires allows a softer tire, with the less sharp handling and the longer wear. Of course the lack of the V speed rating means not going over a sustained 112 MPH with the T rated replacements....IIRC the 99 V6 is electronically limited to 140MPH.
Can't really do this with the Gen 8 accord, as I don't think you can get a 50 series tire without the speed rating. It's just too much of a typical performance tire size.
Sep 22, 2010 (6:32 am)
T rating is 118, S is 112.
I also plan to ditch the V-rated turanzas that came on my SE, but I will stick with H (130) as a replacement. Will most likely get the Michelin Primacy MXV4 - excellent ratings by CR and extremely low rolling resistance.
Still on my original tires at 91k. That is a little misleading though because I run snows in the winter. Probably have 55k on the OE turanzas - another benefit of high pressure (40psi) is longer tire life. And my tread wear is absolutely even.