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You are in the BMW Z4
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BMW Z4, Coupe, Convertible
Feb 01, 2006 (12:02 pm)
You may be right, that the Z4 comes standard with all seasons. I was going by the ones that I have seen - all with the sport package. Byt the way, has the Z4 been discountinued for 2006? - it's not listed in Edmunds BMW models list.
According to Edmunds, the Miata Sport comes standard with rather benign all season tires. And there are many "Potenza" tires that include all seasons. My Acura TL 6-speed came with Potenza summer tires that were drivable -albeit a little slippery - in the winter. But the Potenza "Pole Position" S02/S03 "W" rated summer performance tires that came on my S2000 are in a different league, and downright dangerous on packed snow in sub 25 degree weather. If the Z4 came with those kind of tires, snows would be a must. I doubt even the sport package 3-series comes with that type of dedicated summer tire.
I don't disagree. The point I was making was that I thought the stock 3-series tires would be more winter friendly than the stock Z4 tires. However, since I haven't been able to verify what the stock Z4 tires are, I may be wrong. It may indeed be the case that you only stray from all-seasons if you select a sport package on either.
And I agree with your comments regarding RWD being unfairly criticized for winter driving.
#19 of 86 Re: Tires [habitat1]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 01, 2006 (12:11 pm)
The '06 Z4 is in production right now...
1st deliveries are scheduled for March..
#20 of 86 Re: Tires [habitat1]
Feb 02, 2006 (4:10 pm)
Good points. I used to drive a 2wd S-10 in winter without much trouble. Definitely was much easier though when I got 4wd. I was more concerned about the tires and ground clearance of the BMWs than anything else.
I will hopefully be able to keep the truck when I get this car, but it may not be the case. We only have a 2 car garage, and the other stall is taken up by my wife's 05 TL (and I don't really want to leave a vehicle parked outside). That car is what brought on a lot of thinking for me about getting something that drives nicer than my truck. The TL drives so nice I've found it much less fatiguing to drive than my truck, which is a consideration with my chronic health problems. My thoughts at this point center around 4 options...
1. If I can find a place to cheaply store a 3rd vehicle indoors, keep the truck for winter driving and hauling, and get a convertible, such as a Z4.
2. Get rid of the truck and get a convertible that will do reasonably well in the snow, such as a 3 series.
3. Get a sedan or two door with a nice sunroof that will handle well in all seasons, such as a TSX.
4. Do nothing, and keep swiping the TL when I need to drive any kind of distance
None of this will happen in the immediate future (except option #4). I am just in the research stages for now. But thanks to you guys I have some more info to work with!
For those of you with snow tires - do you get them just for the rear wheels or all 4 wheels? I remember 30 years ago my dad having an old Nova that he'd put snow tires on the rear for, but that's my only experience with snow tires.
I'm thinking I will go the used route if I get a convertible. Seems you can find some low mileage convertibles around here for fairly reasonable prices. Any thoughts on that approach?
#21 of 86 Re: Tires [mdw1000]
Feb 02, 2006 (4:29 pm)
One other question. Someone mentioned increased road noise. How bad is this generally? I realize with the top down you will hear everything, but with the top up is it bad?
#22 of 86 Re: Tires [mdw1000]
Feb 03, 2006 (8:08 am)
I realize with the top down you will hear everything, but with the top up is it bad?
Some people think it's too much, some people think it's fine.... The best thing to do is to drive it and decide for yourself.
#23 of 86 Re: Tires [habitat1]
Feb 03, 2006 (11:11 am)
My Acura TL 6-speed came with Potenza summer tires that were drivable -albeit a little slippery - in the winter. But the Potenza "Pole Position" S02/S03 "W" rated summer performance tires that came on my S2000 are in a different league, and downright dangerous on packed snow in sub 25 degree weather. If the Z4 came with those kind of tires, snows would be a must.
Thanks for the update.
As I said, I do not recall what Potenzas came with the Miata sport package.
Per your Acura experience, the Miata Potenzas were slippery but workable. I agree there are some tires that are not safe on snow (or even reasonably wet pavement for that matter) at all.
Feb 09, 2006 (10:17 am)
Coincidentally, my circumstances are very much like those of mdw1000. Bought my 2005 Z4 a year ago. It only comes with one set of tires and I can promise you that they're not all seasons. I have a Chevy s-10 2wd that I intended to sell which was never very good in the snow anyway. One afternoon driving home in roads that were only barely covered (a tiny fraction of an inch) made the car 100% undrivable. As much as the pick-up is not a great winter driver, I've had to keep it because the Z4 is a NO winter driver.
That aside, I've gotta tell you that I LOVE this car.
Feb 13, 2006 (9:52 am)
And, moreover, driving any car is dangerous.
Let's all start walking more!
#26 of 86 Must I replace Runflats with Runflats?
May 20, 2006 (8:09 pm)
I am sick of the runflats. I need to replace the tires and would like to put on regular tires but the dealer says the rims (2003 Z4 2.5i) are for runflats only. Can anyone verify this? Would I need to replace the rims also?
#27 of 86 Driving my Z4 in Winters
Sep 23, 2007 (6:53 pm)
Hello, this is my first post as I just bought my 2003 Z4 2.5i 2 months back. The car is beautiful and I enjoyed my summer with it.
I have read lots of reviews about not driving the Z4 in winter. Quite frankly I live 0.7 miles away from work and I take my car out for work and trips (which we wont have any in winter). Is it OK to drive my car to work?... I think it should be OK) I live in southern part of Michigan.
Also, I really dont have much idea or knowledge about the details, but do I need to buy the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50?