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Hardtops vs. Ragtops

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Re: Not surprising I guess, but... [john_324] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 25, 2006 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: john_324 (Oct 25, 2006 5:24 am)

MIATA: It sells equally well to a female audience and you can buy it with an automatic. That doubles the market for the car right there. An S2000 can't do that as easily nor can a Corvette. Miata is a convertible for everyone. Probably the closest car to match that is a V6 Mustang.
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Miata by carlisimo
Oct 25, 2006 (4:13 pm)
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Funny thing about the Miata is that during several years it had a manual transmission take rate of 80%. Wide appeal or not, it's still hardcore =].
 
I have one now and when I'm driving it like a sports car, there's a huge difference with the top up and down. It's the engine/exhaust noise - it sounds so good in the open. There's more to it than that, but it's hard to put into words. Oh and top up, the engine noise is surprisingly muffled. Which is nice, because when I'm driving top up it's because I feel like I need to relax (if it's not due to the weather).
 
The new Miata is now available with a retractable hardtop. It's slightly compromised - no trunk loss (something that's only easy to do on a two-seater), but it's a little ungainly and the rear window isn't much bigger than in the softtop. And that rear window is my only real issue with softtops. (If you buy the removable hardtop, you do get a big window but they're only worth it if you're going to keep it on a lot.)
 
The other thing soft tops have going for them - well ok, just the Miata's - is that it only takes a couple of seconds to open or close it (especially the newest one). You can even do it at 15mph. In most convertibles you have to be totally stationary for like... several seconds. For the people behind you at a metering light, stop sign, or short traffic light, that's too long and they'll let you know!
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Re: Miata [carlisimo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 25, 2006 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: carlisimo (Oct 25, 2006 4:13 pm)

That easy top is another appealing feature. Maybe retractables are slicker but on some cars like a Boxster you're never sure if the top will work the next time you try it. Oh great a broken retractable on an out of warranty Porsche...swell......
 
Ah, simplicity.
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Re: Hardtops vs Ragtops [ragtopc] by andys120
Mar 13, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Did I miss something? I am completely unaware of any convertible versions of the DTS or Chrysler 300.
 
In another vein, a convertible which seats four or five isn't all that useful. I've owned both and no one every wanted to ride in back.
 
I'm interested in the BMW One series convertible because I prefer the folding top to the expensive, complicated and top heavy retractable H/T on the larger 3 series.
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Re: Hardtops vs Ragtops [andys120] by fezo
Mar 15, 2008 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Mar 13, 2008 10:05 am)

Good point on the back seat. My oldest daughter would ride in the back of my old Sebring and be fine but the second one wanted nothing to do with it. She was fine up front.
 
That said, if I'm getting another convertible anytime soon (I'm having this very debate with myself right now) I'd likely have the back seat just because of the number of family members.
 
Rag top, please.
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Hardtops vs Ragtops by ragtopc
Apr 08, 2008 (5:42 am)
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The car companies don't always make the cars some people want because there isn't enough volume to make a profit. Hence, the need for aftermarket companies. There Cadillac DTS and Chrysler 300 convertibles available with ample rear seat room and soon there will be the Cadillac CTS four door convertible as aftermarket. Searches on the web for "four door convertible or four/five passenger convertible will bring you to the aftermarket companies.
 
Larry
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Re: Hardtops vs Ragtops [ragtopc] by fezo
Apr 21, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: ragtopc (Apr 08, 2008 5:42 am)

Cool. Will check that out.
 
Meanwhile, I have pulled the trigger on my ragtop - a 99 Toyota Celica. Very nice. Just big enough. I'd have liked a five speed but given the paucity of Celica convertibles avail able I figure I can live with the automatic. Sweet car. Ebay special.

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