Article Comments: 2007 Lexus LS 460 Full Test

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Article comments for Full Test: 2007 Lexus LS 460 - The flagship of the fleet should be fashioned from an uncommon and uncompromised blend of technology and opulence. It should sport elements that distinguish it from the lesser vessels of the line, instill in its occupants an aura of invincibility and convey to the driver a lofty level of dynamic excellence, tempered but not tamed by a lush layer of luxury. (more)

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#7 of 66 Re: Base suspension and handling comments [eric_l] by hpowders Oct 19, 2006 (11:23 pm)
Replying to: eric_l (Oct 19, 2006 6:53 pm) That is a good point. Edmunds could have acknowledged that Lexus has such a suspension for the new LS and Edmunds just didn't have one available to test.
#8 of 66 Re: Overall... [excelsior88] by hpowders Oct 19, 2006 (11:26 pm)
Replying to: excelsior88 (Oct 19, 2006 6:48 pm) I realize there are plenty of people who will love this car. Lexus provides plenty of luxury and Edmunds did say the sound system is stunning. Perhaps I will rent one as an alternative living room!
#9 of 66 Re: Article Comments: 2007 Lexus LS 460 Full Test by kalargyi Oct 20, 2006 (5:23 am)
Edmund should consider testing all LS vehicles to make the comments. They have tested the cheapest edition and said "NOT YET" is insult. Replies to this message: ew3074 (Oct 20, 2006 8:16 am)
#10 of 66 Re: Article Comments: 2007 Lexus LS 460 Full Test [kalargyi] by ew3074 Oct 20, 2006 (8:16 am)
Replying to: kalargyi (Oct 20, 2006 5:23 am) I Agree. The car isn't even equipped with the parking system which edmunds editor liked in the first test. I think Edmunds people are too early to comment on LS 460 By the way, they still gave the car 10 points.
#11 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [hpowders] by xerok00l Oct 20, 2006 (2:56 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 19, 2006 1:39 pm) To put things in perspective, here's Edmunds' full test of the S550 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=108988/pageId=68- 239 0-60 in 6.1s 1/4 mile 14.2s 101mph tested mpg 15.6 slalom 63.9mph skidpad 0.83g And this is their test result of the LS460: 0-60 in 5.8s 14.2s 100.7mph tested mpg 25 slalom 63mph skidpad 0.82g So Lexus performs just as well as the S550 in all areas, except that it's 0.3s quicker to 60, and it gets almost TEN (10!!!) more mpg. What more do you want? This test LS doesn't even have the air suspension, which greatly enhances the ride and driving dynamics. Edmunds' could've gotten their own facts straight before passing on this "not yet" nonsense. LOL. Replies to this message: drjames (Oct 20, 2006 10:19 pm) rennybosch (Oct 21, 2006 2:42 pm)
#12 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [xerok00l] by drjames Oct 20, 2006 (10:19 pm)
Replying to: xerok00l (Oct 20, 2006 2:56 pm) Thanks for putting up objective numbers. Also, the S550 costs $14,000 more to start, and the model and trim they tested cost them $32,000 more than the LS460 they chose to critique. For those who feel like reading a great article, Motor Trend October issue, "enemy at the gates: Japan's lux leader invades german turf" gives a thorough and very positive critque of the newest Lexus. oh... and the pics are just amazing! (VSC/TRAC turned off, and smoke curling off tires, car all crossed up and sideways! Amazing pics.)
#13 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [hpowders] by maxhonda99 Oct 21, 2006 (12:00 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 19, 2006 1:39 pm) As usual, you miss the point of vehicles by a long shot...and I mean a long shot. "decent suspension". It seems like it already has a decent suspension, if you idea of a decent suspension is that what is in a BMW 5-series, you're hopeless. THe LS is a a luxury car FIRST. I'm sure one could say the 5-series is "floaty" compared to a BMW 3-series also. And it will probably be floatier than a BMW 7series again, but also it's first a luxury car. And if you haven't noticed yet, LUXURY is what sells cars at this price point, not SPORT. Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 21, 2006 12:29 pm) jd14 (Oct 21, 2006 2:47 pm) hpowders (Oct 21, 2006 3:03 pm) and 6 more... pearl (Oct 23, 2006 5:34 pm)
#14 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [maxhonda99] by hpowders Oct 21, 2006 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 21, 2006 12:00 pm) You're telling me I am missing the point? The point by the way is to comment on the Edmunds review of the new LS. Which I did. You are off topic here by bringing in totally extraneous material editorializing on what you believe the LS is supposed to be. And the 5 Series and the 3 Series? Where are they mentioned in the review? Edmunds expressed disappointment with the brakes and suspension in their review, and when one is spending this kind of money, I would hope the reviewer would not find these kinds of faults. I would expect that maybe in a Saturn LS review. Replies to this message: jd14 (Oct 21, 2006 2:47 pm) hpowders (Oct 21, 2006 3:03 pm) jsleung1 (Oct 22, 2006 6:28 am) and 5 more... pearl (Oct 23, 2006 5:34 pm)
#15 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [xerok00l] by rennybosch Oct 21, 2006 (2:42 pm)
Replying to: xerok00l (Oct 20, 2006 2:56 pm) "So Lexus performs just as well as the S550 in all areas, except that it's 0.3s quicker to 60, and it gets almost TEN (10!!!) more mpg." -- That's 200 miles further on a 20 gallon tank of gas!! (Not that the math was all that hard, but it puts it in perspective.)
#16 of 66 Re: Given That Edmunds Found.... [hpowders] by jd14 Oct 21, 2006 (2:47 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 21, 2006 12:29 pm) I personally can visualize Edmunds wanting to complain about the LS because they love the MB S, and don't want their precious to be overturned. But when people look at the numbers, they'll see that 0-60 was 0.3 seconds faster (better straightline performance, and 1/4 mile time is irrelevant since I, and most others, can't even remember going 100+ mph), slalom 0.9 seconds slower (barely noticeable cornering difference, and LS turning circle is much tighter), mpg is approaching 66% better than the S, and price...well...let's just say MB isn't there. Complaints without figures to back them up seem to be ignored by most people these days, which is exactly what I believe will happen. And, like many here have previously mentioned, they didn't even test the sport suspension package. Yeah, that's fair. Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 21, 2006 3:03 pm) jsleung1 (Oct 22, 2006 6:28 am) hpowders (Oct 22, 2006 7:02 am) and 4 more... pearl (Oct 23, 2006 5:34 pm)