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What is this discussion about? Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Brakes, Van


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Re: '92 Caravan, ABS, worth fixing?? [geppetto425] by shipo
Aug 03, 2007 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: geppetto425 (Aug 03, 2007 6:44 pm)

The first thing you need to check is if you have the Bendix ABS system (I think but am not certain that your model year falls within the Bendix era). If you do it is my understanding that it is lifetime warranted via some sort of a recall or a TSB or some such. That said, the parts are extremely rare and most dealerships will refuse to work on them due to lack of parts.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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changing brake pads for my 1990 voyager by rockinputnam
Sep 26, 2007 (3:12 pm)
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As crazy as it might seem,I cant seem to get the old pads out.They have little springs that hold them in place.Ive took the springs out, but still cant getem out.There is a third bolt,much smaller than the two main ones.My question is Do I have to take this third bolt out to open the caliber wider,allowing me to pull the pads out?
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Re: changing brake pads for my 1990 voyager [rockinputnam] by shipo
Sep 26, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: rockinputnam (Sep 26, 2007 3:12 pm)

While I've never even seen the calipers of a Gen 2 Caravan, it sounds like you haven't separated the caliper from the bracket. Once the caliper (and their attached pads) are separated from the mounting bracket and rotor, the pads should slide out fairly easily (although you may need a medium to large screwdriver to help pry them off if they've been on there for a LOOOOONG time).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? by keystone2k9
Oct 23, 2007 (1:04 pm)
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Today i'm getting my van serviced. '98 Plymouth Grand Voyager with 67,450 miles.
 
My mechanic told me that my brake pads are brittle and need replacement and so do the rotors. He's installing new ceramic brake pads and new rotors. Not to mention cylinders in the back needing replacement (he said a broken back cylinder caused the brakes to overheat causing the pads to become brittle).
 
All in all, he told me the cost of new parts and labor would hit me at $490.00. We've been going to this guy for years and never suspected being over estimated.
 
Did I get good value on all the work done?
 
What has everyone paid for similar work?
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Re: Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? [keystone2k9] by shipo
Oct 23, 2007 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: keystone2k9 (Oct 23, 2007 1:04 pm)

If you've never had your brakes done, then everything that he has suggested MUST be done. Have him put new (as opposed to rebuilt) rear wheel cylinders, the drums are probably still good to go, however, while he's in there, you might as well have him replace the shoes. Another thing that is an absolute must at this stage is to have the entire brake fluid system flushed.
 
As far as cost, I do my own with top quality parts (usually NAPA) and can buy all of the parts for about $175 (front pads, front rotors, rear shoes and rear wheel cylinders). I have no idea what your guy is charging you for labor and the markup on parts.
 
Keep us posted.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? [shipo] by keystone2k9
Oct 23, 2007 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 23, 2007 1:28 pm)

Well I live in San Francisco, so that correlates into a lot of "brake riding" down all these hills here. The last time I got work done were the brake pads in March but those got stuck and overheated. He's installed ceramic brake pads, new rear wheel cylinders today as part of the job, and the installation of new rotors because it seems as if mine have been reshaped due to the overheating.
 
I have yet to pick it up later in the afternoon when he's done and I'll be sure to ask him what else was done. (Shoes, drums, and brake fluid)
 
Thanks for the insight Shipo, I'll be back on later tonight to see the final job
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Re: Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? [keystone2k9] by shipo
Oct 23, 2007 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: keystone2k9 (Oct 23, 2007 2:40 pm)

If you've gone through a set of pads since March, then you might want to consider new or rebuilt calipers as well as they might be sticking.
 
If you are finding that brakes don't last very long on your van before the pedal starts pulsing while you're braking, you may be overtaxing the rotors, especially if you have the 14" wheels on your van. We have the sixteen inch wheels on ours and have the larger disks that came with the 15" and 16" wheeled vans, and even still, I was not getting anything more than twenty to thirty thousand miles per set (and as little as eight thousand on one set) before the pulsing in the brake pedal got so bad I couldn't stand it anymore. In desperation I bought a set of cross-drilled rotors (a little pricy but apparently worth it) and married them up with a set of ceramic pads. The good news here is that I now have 36,000 miles on that set and they're still nice and smooth.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? [shipo] by keystone2k9
Oct 23, 2007 (9:54 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 23, 2007 3:41 pm)

Shipo
 
Here's what went down:
 
1. Brake Inspection
2. Found front brake pads and rotors overheated
3. Found right rear wheel cylinder rusted (piston stuck)
4. Replaced front brake pads with ceramic premium pads
5. Lube caliper sliders
6. Replaced front brake rotors
7. Adjusted rear brakes and parking brake
T: $190.00 (2 hours)
 
1. Replaced rear wheel cylinders
2. Bleed complete system from master cylinder to calipers and wheel cylinders
3. Fill system with new brake fluid DOT 3
4. 1 Year warranty
T: $95.00
 
1. Replaced rear brake drums
2. Adjusted rear brakes and parking brake
T: No Charge
 
-Ceramic Front Brake Pads, $105 (1)
-Front Brake Rotors, $196 (2, 98 each)
-Synthetic Brake Caliper Lube, NC (1)
-Brake Fluid, NC (1)
-Wheel Cylinders, 69.96 (2, 34.98 each)
-Rear Brake Drums, $102 (2, 51 each)
PARTS : $472.96
LABOR : $295.00
TAX : $39.02
TOTAL: $796.98
 
?
 
The van feels and drives brand new. Better safe than sorry? I feel bad for my pockets.
#28 of 79
Re: Brakes/Rotors/Brake Cylinder + Labor? [keystone2k9] by shipo
Oct 24, 2007 (12:41 am)
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Replying to: keystone2k9 (Oct 23, 2007 9:54 pm)

Well..., that's a pretty expensive brake job. Thorough but expensive. While the labor charges aren't out of line, especially for the Bay area, he stuck it to you on the parts.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
#29 of 79
2008 dodge caravan (brake control) by lenwick
Oct 26, 2007 (11:52 am)
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