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Re: car falls on it's face [cuff] by wbowl99
Mar 20, 2007 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: cuff (Mar 20, 2007 8:24 am)

Please do. My engine seems to hit hard at times and I hear a loud ticking almost like a lifter, but the tech says that he can't recreate it and everything checks out normal. It is intermittent and when it is doing it, is loudest when stopped at redlights, but I have heard it even over the horrible wind noise. Which is another thing that makes me really mad. Tech says that's normal too, but it's way too much, and more after they adjusted the driver's door.
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Re: car falls on it's face [wbowl99] by quietpro
Mar 20, 2007 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: wbowl99 (Mar 20, 2007 9:00 am)

Cuff,
  My ex brother-in-law owns a transmission shop and my nephew works for him. I have asked him to ask around and see if they've heard of anything like what you're experiencing. I'll let you know if they come up with anything.
 
Wanda,
  It was me who suggested using 3rd gear. Now that you're saying it's bumping between 3rd and 4th, would you also describe that sensation as a "shudder"? By shudder, I mean the feeling the torque converter makes with its final engagement and you feel a cushioned little bump. With a shudder, it's that cushioned bump feeling over and over. It goes away if you accelerate or slow down and only exists when you're trying to maintain a steady speed. If so, there's an additive called "Dr. Tranny" that fixed my old car right up. This was after visiting several tranny shops and all said I needed a new torque converter and actually had one replaced under warranty. It was my nephew that suggested I try it. Their shop puts it in every transmission they repair. It costs about $10 and you just pour it into the transmission fluid filler tube.
 
As for the lifter noise, see if you can isolate the circumestances around it. Is the engine fully heated, warming up, cold? Have you been driving at highway speeds or stop and go? A/C on? The engine ticking has been noted by others with the 3.5L. That's your engine, right?
 
As for the wind noise, I would test drive a different Impala at the dealership and compare. There seems to be an occasional "bad" Impala out there. When I bought mine, the SS I test drove had bad wind noise but all the other Impalas we drove (at least 4) were fine.
 
Hope some of this helps.
 
Ron
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Re: car falls on it's face [quietpro] by wbowl99
Mar 21, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: quietpro (Mar 20, 2007 5:05 pm)

Thanks, Ron. Yes, I think it is a shudder I feel. Glad to have someone give me the correct terminology to use. Maybe the mechanics would have understood that better. It also has some vibration in the steering wheel that feels like it might be related to the engine running a little hard.
 
I've tried to pay attention to the lifter noise and thought it was pretty much after it was fully heated. I've heard it on the Interstate after driving over 100 miles and I've heard it in mixed traffic when stopping at a red light. Then yesterday, I hadn't gone 2 miles and it had that sound. Wasn't fully heated then. Not using AC yet, although it is warming up here in TN (70+ today for first day of spring )
 
On the additive, since it is only 6 1/2 mos old, would it affect the warranty if I put an additive in it? This is the first brand new one I've bought in over 20 years. Usually buy used and do regular or minor maintenance myself, but with a new one, I wouldn't want to do anything where they could void the warranty. I even let the dealer do the oil changes because they only charge me $7 for the oil/filters since I bought from them.
 
Wanda
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Re: car falls on it's face [quietpro] by cuff
Mar 21, 2007 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: quietpro (Mar 20, 2007 5:05 pm)

thanks ron.....ya let me no if ya find out anything.......car still at the dealer ship with no answers from them yet........before i was mad........no i'm pissed
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Re: car falls on it's face [wbowl99] by quietpro
Mar 21, 2007 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: wbowl99 (Mar 21, 2007 6:39 am)

Wanda,
  The manufacturer claims it's OK with the manufacturer's but I wouldn't take some guy's word on the internet. Call your dealership or better yet, corporate and ask. Here is the web site for the maker of the additive: http://www.lubegard.com/automotive/trans_shudder_fixx.html
 
If you do a web search for Dr. Tranny, you'll find plenty of places that sell it.
 
With the ticking, you're not hearing it while you're actually driving are you? You're talking about after driving on the interstate and then coming to a stop, right?
 
With the suspected rough engine, try a couple things. While stopped (and feeling the rough idle), shift into park or neutral and see if you notice a difference. Also, try turning on the AC. I've noticed with my engine (and most others), it runs smoother with a slight load on it. If I idle in neutral, mine has a bit of a rough idle. If it's in gear or in neutral with the AC engaged, it smooths out.
 
I was actually gonna ask the other SS owners about that so if you're reading, let's hear your take. Does the 5.3L run a little rough in neutral but smooth as silk while in gear?
 
Thanks all and get back with us, Wanda...
Ron
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Re: car falls on it's face [wbowl99] by 06fasst
Mar 21, 2007 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: wbowl99 (Mar 21, 2007 6:39 am)

i have had my transmission replace already and there is a bullitin to replace the 2 and 3 clutch as well as the 3 and 4 clutch. when they did this is was worse and i got a new transmission. i have an 06 ss
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Re: car falls on it's face [quietpro] by martin22
Mar 21, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: quietpro (Mar 21, 2007 2:33 pm)

'I was actually gonna ask the other SS owners about that so if you're reading, let's hear your take. Does the 5.3L run a little rough in neutral but smooth as silk while in gear?'
 
Not really rough but it does sound like a bag of marbles on start up (not unlike the sound made by a slack top timing chain on an XK Jaguar). I'm wondering if this is due to an undue delay in oil pressure build up.
 
Also, some time back I got a really noisy lifter tick after a start in cold weather. That seems to have gone now a few more thousand miles have been added.
 
Martin
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Re: car falls on it's face [martin22] by colchester47
Mar 22, 2007 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: martin22 (Mar 21, 2007 5:50 pm)

When I first got my SS it made it a little ticking on a cold morning, I havn't noticed any other ticking at any other time.
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Re: Lifter ticking... by mymitties
Mar 22, 2007 (3:28 am)
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Hi Guys...
  If I'm not mistaken here, all the '06 & '07 Impala models, including the SS, share the same hydralic roller valve lifters.
Sometimes in cold weather, and/or when it's been sitting too long, you will hear a slight ticking sound on start up until all the lifters fill with oil.
         Just maybe.....
 
              Frank
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Re: Lifter ticking... [mymitties] by wbowl99
Mar 22, 2007 (6:19 am)
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Replying to: mymitties (Mar 22, 2007 3:28 am)

Thanks, all. Ron, I have heard the ticking when I was in slower traffic, say creeping along, but, yes, most of the time it is when coming to a stop and idling. In thinking about it on the interstate, I think I heard it then when I had to come to a stop because of a wreck. I had driven over 100 miles at the time so it was good and warmed up. I have heard it at morning start up including the last couple of days, but temp was upper 50's yesterday and low 60's today when I went out.
 
I have tried shifting it to park and other gears and it doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. I hear it more than feel it. It makes me wonder, though, if that is what is happening when I feel the shudder driving between 30 and 55 mph.
 
Wanda

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