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#242 of 509 Re: 1995 Dodge Dakota 2wd 5sp Manual, electrical gremlin [bpeebles]
Sep 20, 2008 (2:21 pm)
You know, I'm going to try that next. Here's a recap of my weekend so far:
We had talked about replacing the battery, and I did that. Still the same problem, HOWEVER:
I also, with a fully charged battery, pulled EVERY fuse, inside and out (one in the engine compartment, one under the driver side dash) and checked with a voltmeter if there was a short. NOTHING. Now, I have two batteries I keep fully charged. One to get me where I'm going, and maybe, just maybe, it will not discharge. The other is for the return trip.
You know, another issue that seems to be a part of it, and maybe I need an outside view, is that it seems to run fine until it heats up, then it has problems. it also doesn't like water, or moisture, and ran like hell when the Ike Rain came through here. I know that's just a distributor thing, and I'll address that when I get the other bugs done. Going to do a new distributor, plugs, wires, Dcap. One thing at a time, unless this could be the issue? It HAS to be somewhere in the power transfer through the engine, but... where? Computer?
Given the statements you've made above, I think that's the best possible solution, to check every ground, because it increasingly IS starting to sound like a grounding problem.
I don't have a diagnostic plug on my 95 Dak, but it has the "rev to 2500 RPM, cycle gears, off on off on and count the 'check engine' blinks" internal diagnostic, but I can't find the code that it does. I believe it is the elusive Code 37, which doesn't make sense for the symptoms I'm experiencing. It's either the "Shift indicator light failure, 5-speed" or for 1995 onward "Trans temperature sensor voltage low" which I've been told "This may cause the low (no) voltage indication".
Frankly, I think I'm going to take your advise, and spend a LONG morning/afternoon pulling grounds and getting them sanded, then soldering them on, for good measure. Any idea where I can find a listing, or even better, a diagram, of all the grounds that are SUPPOSED to be in an 1995 Dakota 2WD 5sp engine, 4 cyl?
Like to do this Sunday, probably.
#243 of 509 Re: 88 dakota intermitant no start [dusty9]
Sep 20, 2008 (6:37 pm)
Since you are not smelling any raw gasoline at the tailpipe... I would have to suggest that your FUEL SYSTEM is not injecting fuel. The fuel-pump inside the gastank is KNOWN to cause funky running symptoms when it starts to die. The only real way to test the fuelpump is with a pressure-guage WHILE the problem is happening.
BTW: If you had told me that you WERE smelling gasoline at the tailpipe... that would have suggested an IGNITION SYSTEM issue.
#244 of 509 Re: 1995 Dodge Dakota 2wd 5sp Manual, electrical gremlin [twizted]
Sep 20, 2008 (6:43 pm)
To answer your question : "Any idea where I can find a listing, or even better, a diagram, of all the grounds that are SUPPOSED to be in an 1995 Dakota 2WD 5sp engine, 4 cyl? "
The factory shop manual has detailed drawings showing every ground (chassis) connection on your Dakota. Most of the connections under the hood are easy enough to locate. There is a ground-connection on both sides of the dashboard (near the floor) Lucally, the connections on the interier do not tend to corrode like the ones under the hood.
#245 of 509 Re: 88 dakota intermitant no start [bpeebles]
Sep 21, 2008 (8:49 am)
I can hear the short slight hum fuel pump when I first turn the key also when it quits there is no hesitation or stuttering. The engine just makes a clean stop.
#246 of 509 Re: 88 dakota intermitant no start [dusty9]
Sep 21, 2008 (11:52 am)
Your symptom description sounds like you're losing current to the fuel pump at the same time you lose power to the ignition and/or fuel injector.
Could be an intermittent ignition switch or a bad electrical connection at the computer.
#247 of 509 Re: 88 dakota intermitant no start [dustyk]
Sep 21, 2008 (6:30 pm)
I am having the same problem. First, does it happen in the mornings or different hours of the day? Mine is in the morning (when dew is present) so I am suspecting condensation in the distributor cap causing the rotor to fail. Other things to check are the fuel filter (easy to replace and resonable price). Next I would pull my fuel lines from the throttlebody and verify a good flow from the tank. If that is weak, you screen at the fuel pump could be dirty/clogged. I found out the hard way that it is easier to remove the bed from the frame (8 bolts) than to drop the tank to check the fuel pump. I also ran some injector cleaner in the tank. Also, make sure that your air intake (from the front grill) is clear and your air filter is clean. Hope this helps.
#248 of 509 Re: 1995 Dodge Dakota 2wd 5sp Manual, electrical gremlin [bpeebles]
Sep 30, 2008 (3:35 pm)
Update: I did as you suggested, and took every ground wire and not only cleaned the wire connecter off, but I also cleaned where it WOULD connect to the chassis, and...
TA DA. The problem of the draining battery went away! I still, once in a great while, get the check engine light, but it's only on for a few seconds or maybe a minute or so, then goes out.
Oh, and it doesn't like it when it's damp, either. Rain I can deal with, but when it rains for days and days, it gets... cranky. Stutters, probably need to replace the distributor and wires/plugs.
That'll go on the list, for when I have $$ to do it.
Thanks for all the help though!!! My main problem fixed!
#249 of 509 Re: 1995 Dodge Dakota 2wd 5sp Manual, electrical gremlin [twizted]
Sep 30, 2008 (4:32 pm)
You are very welcome twizted.
The ignition wires on a 1995 vehicle have outlived their usfulness and "dont owe you nothin". I am not surprised that you are experiencing rough running in damp weathther.
Here is a tip to help isolate that problem. WIth engine idling, use a spritzer-bottle (old windex bottle) to lightly spray water on the ignition wires and dist. cap... when the engine starts to falter, you have found the problem.
With a healthy ignition, you should be able to hose down the wires and the engine never misses a beat. (dont try this because cold water on a hot engine/exhaust can crack the metal!)
Somtimes, when one is on a budget... you can remove the cap/wires and wash them in a tub of hot, soapy water. Use a toothbrush in the nooks-n-crannies. Rince well. After drying thoroughly, reinstall using some silicone grease on the rubber seals on the cap. (on wire ends) You may find it runs better in damp weather.
This sometimes works because a layer of crud on the cap/wires acts to attract moisture and can bleed-off the high-tension voltage.
#250 of 509 2001 Dakota 2w horn/remote glitch
Oct 11, 2008 (2:16 pm)
Out of the blue my horn starting "beeping" intermittently when engine on. Then remote key fob quit. Then when raining I turned on the lights and the relay in the fuse box began to chatter and the instrument lights flickered. I noticed my trailer connection was wet and dried it, and the light and horn problem stopped for awhile.
Now, going out in wet weather, the problem started again. The fob is still dead (new batts). Any clues?? Thanks rdognc
#251 of 509 Re: 1995 Dodge Dakota 2wd 5sp Manual, electrical gremlin [twizted]
Oct 11, 2008 (9:34 pm)
I correct, I think I have further isolated the problem, and will work on it. SPecifically, I've taken to having two fully charged batteries with me, one for the trip TO someplace, and if I can't find a hill to park on, the trip BACK. I did notice, however, that the problem of the battery draining occurs now when I use the lights, and with nothing else drawing power. I have to NOW check every line leading to the lights, to isolate the problem, because I feel that it is indicative of a short in the lighting system.
Any specific thoughts on where I should look?
I will also consider the budget fix for the plugs and distributor, but I can actually replace those on Wednesday. Any other problems I might want to be concerned about for the upcoming winter? Things old Dodges are known to do in the winter?
I was going to invest in a plug-in style oilpan warmer, just for shits and giggles. Can't hurt, and a buddy has one for $10. Cheap, in my book.
Any thoughts? By the way, you have been a wealth of knowledge, and I want to express my gratitude and thanks for all you have suggested. it's been immensely helpful.