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Jeep Grand Cherokee Start Stall Idle Problems

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JGC difficult to start, dies in idle immediately after a difficult start by dindih
Sep 08, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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I am new to this forum...
 
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with a 4.7L V8 engine. Like many JGC owners, I had had many problems along the way.
 
Last week the car began acting out during start-up and would die immediately after a start (after trying several times) and would die in idle if the gas pedal was not pushed down to supply extra gas. The lights would dim, the car would make a big hesitation as if dying out with a faint crank. After turning the key several times to start the car up, it would start and would die immediately in idle if extra gas is not supplied in high rpm idle by pushing the gas pedal...
 
The lights in the car would otherwise work fine, the gauges, the power seats etc would function... The voltage gauge would show 13-14 volts on the dashboard analog gauge once it went through a successful start-up by supplying extra gas for 30-60 seconds.
 
This went on for about a week until I replaced the battery yesterday and all the problems were solved... My battery was an AC Delco battery with a 7-year warranty and had just completed 4 years of use this month.
 
I was thinking either a malfunctioning TPS, an IAC valve or a crankshaft sensor, but wanted to take the battery question out of the way first...
 
Reading this post last night gave me this idea... I appreciate all the help... and wanted to give a feedback...
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Re: JGC difficult to start, dies in idle immediately after a difficult start [dindih] by steve_ HOST
Sep 08, 2009 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: dindih (Sep 08, 2009 7:57 pm)

Welcome to CarSpace.
 
Did you by any chance have the battery tested before replacing it?
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Re: JGC difficult to start, dies in idle immediately after a difficult start [steve_] by dindih
Sep 09, 2009 (1:03 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 08, 2009 8:08 pm)

Yes, it was necessary for me to receive a partial credit and the test showed that the battery was bad...
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Re: JGC difficult to start, dies in idle immediately after a difficult start [dindih] by steve_ HOST
Sep 09, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: dindih (Sep 09, 2009 1:03 am)

Well, sometimes batteries die early or sit on the lot in the heat for six months. Four years isn't unheard of although I usually get a few more than that on mine.
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Re: JGC difficult to start, dies in idle immediately after a difficult start [steve_] by tuggajb
Sep 09, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 09, 2009 7:52 am)

i live in az and 2 to 21/2 years is all iget out of my batteries
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WOW, Hope this helps. GO CENTRAL BRAKE!!!! by 96jeep2
Sep 15, 2009 (6:54 pm)
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The light at the end of the tunnel........
 
   Oh my, what along dark road! At this point, I dont even know were to start! Well I guess the car would be a good start. I have a 1996 jeep grand cherokee leraido. In the beginning my car would die on the high way sometimes not start, stall at the stop signs, lights,etc.. If I waited a few hours it would start up no problem and run fine, even sometimes it would start up after 20 mins. I changed, the crank and the cam position sensor if fact an entire new distributor, and the cap, rotor, plugs, wire, coil, Idle air, m.a.p. sensor, and what ever that third sensor on the throttle body was, I changed that too!, I cleaned the throttle body and the intake, put new fuel filter/pump, and injectors. At that point the only this left to change was the pcm, so what did I do? Yup you guessed it, I changed that too! At this point I found out there are a couple of recall's, had that done by the dealership, and when they were done with that, I asked them to find out what was wrong with the car, after 2 weeks of having the car, still no luck they could not tell me what was wrong with me car, oh but dont worry they still figured out a way to charge me! so after i towed my car out of the dealer ship and paid the 125 doller diognostic fee ugh!!!! My car still did not start at that point. I brought it to my mothers mecahnic, they had the car for 4 weeks, I just got the call that the car is running just fine. The car is fixed!!!! I dont know how much I owe scarry thought! but I do know what was wrong with the car. You ready? I tryed to keep you in suspence, did it work? Well any-ways. My car had a 1997 transmission in it becuase 125000 miles it needed a new one. Now 211000, miles I find this out. well when I address the origanal issue and the very first the I replaced. The crank sensor, well I got a "96" one in and not a 97, thus cuasing all these probelms! Are you picking up what I am putting down. Althought the model for a 96 fit, it was not conducive. It did not work! Moral of this stroy is, when ever you do work on your car, dont asume becuase the make model and year of the car is one thing, that the tranny or the engine transfer case or anything eles is the same, expeshally when it's and older car! This car had alot of work done to it! i am going to keep it! and when I buy a new car, it will be a luxry one! I think i will try and hit 300,000miles with this strait six! what do you thing will it make it? cheers and good luck, i got some body work to do now!
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Re: WOW, Hope this helps. GO CENTRAL BRAKE!!!! [96jeep2] by 96jeep2
Sep 15, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: 96jeep2 (Sep 15, 2009 6:54 pm)

Oh let me give a little bit more detail, it was the air gap between the end of the crank sensor and the flywheel. The sensor was actually touching the fly wheel. If this air gap is not correct it will throw off the entire car! lesson learn quality over quantity ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
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Re: Electrical Starting Issue JGC 2004 -ODD!!! [spriest] by sccorp8
Sep 16, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: spriest (Jul 28, 2009 2:31 am)

I had similiar problems with my jeep as far as I can tell it is related to the ignition and alarm, if it happens again and you are stuck somewhere, just remove both cables from the battery for about 20 seconds then put them back on turn the key to the start position and wait for everything on the dash to light up then start the car. since this is the first time this is happening to you, I can tell you it will get progressively worse, the only solution I have found to date is to not use the alarm fob lock the doors manually when you exit the vehical and use the key to open the car, the dealer as always has been useless. good luck
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my 2001 jeep grand cherokee by valelf
Sep 16, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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I have a problem with my 2001 jeep grand cherokee. I took it to the automotive place twice and they found nothing wrong with, but it keeps on dying on me. i drive it to run arrands and it just dies. then like 20 mins later it starts up and drives like nothing........I thought it would be the battery so replaced it but it still dies. can anybody give me advice?????

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