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Jeep Grand Cherokee Start Stall Idle Problems

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Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 4.7V8 Stalls [tuggajb] by texgking
Mar 02, 2009 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: tuggajb (Feb 22, 2009 5:25 pm)

An update on the stalls. I replaced the Idle Control Module at the throttle body and cleaned and reseated that module in front of the coolant module (the one with one long bolt) and took it for a test drive. Ran fine for over 15 miles, thought I had it licked. Then after parking with the engine and AC running for about 10 minutes while I returned a book it, I drive about a block and it stalls. After a few minutes go by, it starts right up, goes another block stalls. I opened the hood, took a break and let it cool awhile. After maybe 20 minutes it starts right up and I make it home 10 miles, without stalling.
     Now I order the computer, when it arrives, Woops wrong item, this new one has 3 connectors mine only has one. I get a refund then call the dealer with the numbers off this module with one bolt and they tell me that is Not the PCM. The parts person does not have a picture, just comparing part numbers. So back to the jeep.
   That module that sits right in front of the coolant tank is Not the PCM. The PCM is up against the fire wall to the rear of the coolant tank. It is attached to a large metal plate and actually sits between that and the firewall, very hard to see. But look closely with a light and you can see It has three connectors plus a ground on the back,just exactly like the one I had ordered and took a refund. With a sheepish grin I return and get that PCM, the one with 3 connectors.
  The instructions tell you to ensure all relays are within limits or it may harm the module, so I also get a new Fuel Pump Relay. I think there are three relays with the same part number as the fuel pump relay. I replaced the relay and installed the new PCM. Test drove it over 100 miles, ran file. The next day another 50 ran fine. It's been cold lately so have not tested yet with AC going and long idles, but it appears to be running fine now.
  In total I replaced the TPC (36), ICM ($56), PCM ($125)Fuel Pump Relay ($16) and the battery connections plus cleaned lots of grounds. It appears to be fixed, I hope. Thru all of this I never had an engine light go on.
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problem with fuel pump on start up only by zs711
Mar 02, 2009 (8:52 am)
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I have a 95 JGC, v8, when I try starting it just turns over. Have to wait for fuel pump to kick on,was 1-2 min. suddenly 10-15 mins.Once pump reaches pressure it will start fine and runs perfect. used to restart fine once warm but acts up every time now.Got really bad over night
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2004 grand cherokestiil vibrates after new rotors by muff22
Mar 02, 2009 (2:32 pm)
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brake pedal pulsed found bad left wheel bearing and put new rotors sti the same thinking abs or cv or front drive shaft please help!!! :
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Re: problem with fuel pump on start up only [zs711] by frumunda
Mar 02, 2009 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: zs711 (Mar 02, 2009 8:52 am)

Sounds like a bad Idle Air Control motor again. My suggestion is to read all of the posts in this category as it will shed some light on your issues. You may also want to look into your fuel system a bit deeper...when was your last fuel filter change, what your hot/cold fuel pressure is(have a mechanic do this), pressure test the pump, check your injectors, the works.
 
When you can't start an injected engine when its cold, SOMETHING is not allowing the fuel mixture to either richen up (like when you use the choke on your lawnmower)or actually GET to the cylinders(like plugged injectors, or a blocked fuel filter). Sometimes, a wide open IAC will cause the engine to act this way. Also, if your mass air flow sensor/airspeed sensor is dirty or bad it will take time for the engine to fire up.
 
Again, just my two cents.
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Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 4.7V8 Stalls [texgking] by ike21
Mar 02, 2009 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: texgking (Mar 02, 2009 4:07 am)

I keep posting this but none is reading past posts. You are smart to go with Idle air control sensor and the Throttle Position Sensor first since they are the easiest and cheapest to fix. If those do not work then it is 90% always the Camshaft Sensor that is making it stall. I know it sounds weird but that's how they made them 1999 and up. The 99's and up are never the fuel pump. The fuel pump is the only thing they made well on these Jeep GC's. If it keeps stalling change but the Camshaft Sensor. Harder but can be done yourself with a buddy and or small hands. lol
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Jeep Cherokee by bradpans
Mar 02, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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I finally solved the problem with stalling on my 1997 Jeep Cherokee Laredo...My mechanic replaced the ignition switch and coil...
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Re: 1993 Jeep Cherokee Sport stalling after start up [tidester] by sarge836
Mar 03, 2009 (11:53 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Feb 28, 2009 11:19 am)

Tidester, still not fixed, this is what I have done:
 
Changed Fuel Pump
Changed fuel presure regulator
Changed idle control Valve
Changed Computer (exact same one from Junk Yard)
Chaned Fuel Filter
 
Is there anything else you can think of on my 1993 Jeep Cherokee. Its starts, idles for a moment and I can give it gas and rpm's go up then just stalls like it's out of gas. Starts right back up then dies out again. There was something about a throttle positon sensor or something???? What is that. Thanks so much for anymore ideas. This is a straight 6cyl 4.0 Jeff
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Re: 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 4.7V8 Stalls [ike21] by texgking
Mar 03, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: ike21 (Mar 02, 2009 7:59 pm)

It appears to be fixed, but just in case where is the Camshaft Sensor located? I've put over 150 miles so far on it and no stalls. Hopefully it is now fixed.
thanks for the info.
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Re: 1993 Jeep Cherokee Sport stalling after start up [sarge836] by tidester HOST
Mar 03, 2009 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: sarge836 (Mar 03, 2009 11:53 am)

The throttle position sensor (TPS) is used as input to the electronic control unit (ECU) which adjusts things like ignition timing and fuel injection. It may be worth a look to see whether that is the problem.
 
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Re: 1993 Jeep Cherokee Sport stalling after start up [tidester] by sarge836
Mar 04, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: tidester (Mar 03, 2009 2:17 pm)

Tidester, Well changed it all to include the TPS none of that but I did fix it.
 
I couldn't believe it, about 4 years ago had the same issue but thought this was for the engine to fire. It was the ballast resistor (ceramic piece) mounted to the side of the engine compartment that just has two wires going to it. What I did was just take off a bunch of parts at the junk yard. Earlier I was on Auto Zone website just going over the trouble shooting for "stalling" it did mention that like 20 possibilities down the line. I didn't think anything of it but grabbed it at the last min. Well I was all pissed off after nothing worked and tossed a wrench in my tool bag and noticed that "ballast resistor" or ceramic piece and just plugged it in. Jeep ran like a charm after that.??? Thanks for all your help...Jeff

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