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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
Apr 13, 2008 (5:39 pm)
I own a used 2004 mazda rx-8. It has 63000 miles on it. Fairly new. Anyway, I purchased this car in 2005 and for a couple of months it was driving good and then problems started happening.The worst was in 2006.
My car caught on FIRE! I was driving and all of a sudden my car died and when I turned on my car, the check engine light was on.When I saw that, I just headed straight to the dealership.I was parked at a red light and then this lady yelled " GET out of your car, your cars on fire!" I was terrified. I got out of my car, and ran and when I looked back my two exhaust had ACTUAL flames on it, melting away my bumper! When I saw that I was shaking and crying. The fire department and EMS came and aided to it.
A car should NEVER catch on fire like that. Even if you take poor care of the car, which by the way, I took pretty good care of it ( It was my dream car). Also the exhaust is RIGHT next to the FUEL tank. It would have blown up. I took my car in to the dealership and got them to look at it. They were saying something about the fuel injector went bad and it's about $1500 to fix. Plus the bumper and all this other stuff. I told the service man that something like this should never ever happen with a car, and ASKED him if their were defects or recalls on the car. He said NO. I kept arguing with him and saying this isn't right and im not going to pay for it. I also had TWO other people call and see if their was a recall and all got the answer NO.
So I went to a different mechanic place and got everything done and payed out of my pocket. I didn't even want to drive the car anymore and wanted to get a new car, but I had just bought the car and still owed alot on it and at that time I didn't have any money to put down on another car. So I just kept it and every month I have a problem with it.
Well just recently about 1 year and half later I'm looking for a new car and GUESS what? I stumble across a RECALL page for cars. I found that there was a recall for 2004 engine and engine cooling. And in the description it says that cars at high RPMs some parts around the exhaust can melt and produce problems. So due to this heat problem, it could RESULT in a fire. I couldn't believe my EYES! I never got a letter to bring in my car to check to see if I had that defect and when I had myself and two other people ask about a recall they LIED!
Anyway, I would like some advice on how to get my money back. Well really I just want them to give me ALL the money that I've put into that car or the money in the car itself and getting a RELIABLE car. My life was almost taken away from me that day and I just want some justice. please help!!
#23 of 39 Re: PLEASE HELP [thuynwin]
by Claire@Edmunds HOST
Apr 13, 2008 (8:04 pm)
Have you filed a report with the NHTSA? The recall page you saw also advises you to call Mazda and provides the phone number -- you might want to start with that.
#24 of 39 Re: PLEASE HELP [claires]
Apr 14, 2008 (6:09 am)
You can try to go through Mazda North America. If that doesn't work, you may need an attorny.
#25 of 39 Re: PLEASE HELP [duke15]
Apr 21, 2008 (8:01 am)
Wouldn't your car insurance cover a car fire? Not sure about that, but I'd check.
#26 of 39 Re: PLEASE HELP [thuynwin]
May 06, 2008 (2:41 pm)
IMO, this is a black eye for Mazda. This is precisely the same problem that occurred in the 3rd gen RX-7. The failure sequence is this: the seals around the fuel injectors begin to go bad and fuel begins to leak. The fuel injectors are near the exhaust manifold and since the engine produces a huge amount of heat the seals eventually go bad. The fuel leaks onto the exhaust manifold and poof! I dropped off my 3rd gen in 2002 at the dealership without delay when I smelled fuel coming from the engine bay. The dealership called me several days later (an indication that they spent some time with their legal staff) and notified me that my engine had caught fire while the technician was working on the engine. He had failed to allow the exhaust to cool before disconnecting the fuel injectors. My insurance company covered the repairs. When the car was returned to me, it wasn't running correctly. The second turbo was not kicking in smoothly or at all. I dropped it off and told them to not call me until it was running correctly (the problem was the maze of vacuum hoses that only a handful of mechanics knew well). A week later, they called me to say that the engine was blown, i.e., they blew my engine. My insurance company then covered the installation, by Peter Farrell Supercars, of a new engine. There was a recall related to engine fires on the 3rd gen RX-7. Mazda claimed that the fault was related to the cooling system and coolant leaks onto the exhaust manifold rather than the fuel rail or injectors. They added a switch to the radiator fan to have it kick on if the coolant temperature was above a particular value when the engine was turned off (the engine fires primarily occurred after turning off the engine). I was reading this forum to see how the RX-8 is faring. I'm sorry to hear that this is occurring because I was giving the RX-8 consideration and the 3rd gen RX-7 is one of my all time favorite cars. Mazda should have simply confessed and added a maintenance window for the fuel injector seals. It's really that simple. They are risking lives via actuarial calculations.
#27 of 39 Re: Recalls and accessory labor costs [trispec]
Feb 13, 2009 (9:39 am)
More like the rubber glove treatment.
#28 of 39 Re: Some Current Recalls [lhess]
Apr 21, 2010 (10:43 am)
Where can i find this list of recalls so i can check if my vin# is on it?
#29 of 39 antifreeze in oil
May 13, 2010 (9:57 pm)
i have a 2005 rx8. I bought it used from dealership with 28,000 miles. i now have roughly 64,000 on it. I recently checked oil and it appears it may be antifreeze. almost looks like mustard! Has anyone else experienced this? With all the things i have heard lately, i am not sure if there is a recall or what. my engine light flashes at higher speeds. not sure if the head gasket is bad or what. i dont know a whole lot about these motors. looks like i will get stuck paying for it..... Any suggestions or idea what it could be?
#30 of 39 What is covered?
Jul 02, 2010 (1:22 pm)
Bought my daughter a 2006 RX8 two years ago. Ran great for about a year and a half but then started missing, stalling etc.. Took to dealer to get repaired and they changed the plugs, $400+. Paid it. Brought it home. Next day,wouldn't start. At all. Ever. Towed to dealership.
"Must replace engine. No charge." That was very nice. However, as they were moving parts to the new block, the intake manifold either broke or was broken. "Due to carbon build up." That is a $700+ part. Does this seem to be common or am I just unlucky? The staff at the dealership has been very nice to us and we have bought two new vehicles from them, but this just doesn't smell right.
Jul 16, 2010 (1:28 pm)
DO NOT BUY THIS CAR!!!! The engine on the 2004 through 2006 RX8 WILL burn up!! It's only a matter of time. Unfortunately, mine imploded at 115,000 miles (after the 100,000 warranty limit) and serviced at the dealership had ALL my records and drove the car with care. Mazda would NOT honor 4206-F titled "Engine Lack of Power" warranty issued October 24, 2008. I complained several times that the car "lost power" after warming up BEFORE the warranty was up. They claimed to have "addressed the issue" in December 2008. At that time the car was well under warranty.
Check the Internet for RX8's ... you will see this is a COMMON problem!! Especially in warm climates! So here I am stuck with a $6900 engine replacement bill (rotaries cannot be repaired) for a car that is basically a 3000 lb paper weight... interesting fact, the engine they will replace mine with is a 2007 or newer!! What does that tell you?
DO NOT BUY AN RX8!!! You will regret it just as I have.