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06 XR Handling by jcnader
Apr 03, 2006 (7:35 am)
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I'm new to the Toyota experience and hope to get some comments on a concern. Before discussing the only negative reaction I have (after 2500 mi.) I'll say that the mileage is good, 31-33 MPG with auto trans. and I like the functionality of the vehicle. My concern is handling at highway speeds, 65-70 MPH. The vehicle "floats" slightly from side to side requiring constant steering correction. It's almost like the toe adjustment is too neutral. I didn't expect this drivability problem because Toyota has very high quality marks and the XR I purchased has the optional P215/50R17 90H M&S Bridgestone Potenza tires on nice alloy rims. I assumed it would track great and have excellent feel at highway speeds with these low profile tires. Anyone else having a similar problem with their Matrix XR?
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Re: 06 XR Handling [jcnader] by midnite2
Apr 28, 2006 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: jcnader (Apr 03, 2006 7:35 am)

I'm new to Toyota too. Only have 8,000 miles and bought '04XR new Jan'04. I have p205/55r16 and find it very disconcerting to have to pay so much attention to staying in the center of the lane on the freeways ("floats" covers it). I find the tires don't hold air for long either.
My major complaint, however, is that I barely get 20 mpg in town, 24-26 mixed and hi 20's to 30 only on 3 frwy trips. I chart every fill-up.
Toyota says that's OK and I'm stuck with it. "Factory techs" come to the dealership, hook it up to the computer, sip on their Starbuck's and wait for the computer printout that states "no problem here". I loved my '88 Accord hatchback and will hurry back to Honda ASAP. Quality & good Customer Service were promised but never delivered by Toyota. I think I got a lemon!
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Re: 06 XR Handling [midnite2] by herzogtum71
Apr 29, 2006 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: midnite2 (Apr 28, 2006 6:18 pm)

Maybe all of the problems can be attributed to bad tires? Tires should not lose any significant amount of air. (Pressure will change with temperature, though.) Underinflated tires will cause lower fuel efficiency. Unevenly inflated tires can make it more difficult to drive in a straight line.
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Re: 06 XR Handling [herzogtum71] by gasman1
Apr 30, 2006 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: herzogtum71 (Apr 29, 2006 7:30 am)

You're right on the money! Tires are so important, but so often manufacturers place the cheapest tires on new vehicles. Tires should NOT lose tire pressure!
 
Take your XR to the tire shop and ask them why the tires continue to lose pressure. I'm a firm believer in changing out the OEM tires ASAP.
 
My XR 4WD has Michelin HydroEdge tires. I don't recommend this tire due to the noise. However, my Highlander has Goodyear Triple Tread tires. Easily, the best tire I've ever owned. I may have Triple Treads on the Matrix before winter.
 
Either way - Check tire pressure at least once a month (more often in spring/fall as outside temps rise and fall). Tire pressure will fluctuate with outside air temps. It's 1-psi for each 10-degree change.
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Bumpy Ride by spinner31
Feb 26, 2007 (5:02 am)
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I am new to Toyotas and to the Matrix. I recently purchased a 2005 Matrix with 27,000 miles. The handling on side roads seems rough. The car jars and seems to take in every bump. It's a pretty rough ride overall. The tires are new Goodyear Triple Treds. Is the bumpy handling a characteristic of the Matrix? Or the tires? Other suggestions? Thanks.
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spinner by nippononly
Feb 26, 2007 (12:58 pm)
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What car are you coming out of? Sometimes observations on the quality of the ride are directly related to the last car you owned if you have recently traded. This car is no Buick, nor is it a large or heavy vehicle relatively speaking. Heavy vehicles often end up having a more settled ride (and worse handling and fuel economy) because of their weight. The Matrix is designed to be "sporty", a compromise between ride quality and cornering ability, which it strikes pretty well for my tastes, but everyone's tastes will vary.
 
It's funny, I was just reading the posts above that occured ages ago. The guy saying his mpg was real low has driven only 8000 miles in 2-1/4 years. That's so little driving it's no wonder his mpg stinks.
 
And tires do go down a bit in the normal course of things. Generally, you might lose 1 pound a month or a bit more just from driving around. That's part of the reason why it's a good idea to check them at least once a month. I think the manual recommends it at every fill-up, a rigorous schedule I am guilty of not following to the letter.
 
As for not tracking straight on the highway, I have not had a problem, but also it is sometimes the case that a certain brand of tire will follow the grooves in the pavement more than others. That applies on concrete, not asphalt, of course.
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Re: spinner [nippononly] by spinner31
Feb 26, 2007 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 26, 2007 12:58 pm)

I've had a 91 Honda Civic hatchback so I'm used to small cars.
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Re: spinner [spinner31] by nippononly
Feb 27, 2007 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: spinner31 (Feb 26, 2007 4:54 pm)

Oh, well as someone who has had several of the older Civic hatches and loved them all, I will say the Matrix is significantly more stiff-legged than those models in stock form.
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stiff ride by nagatahawk
Dec 26, 2007 (9:02 am)
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I have an '05 XRS and it rides a little stiff, because of the low profile 17" yokohamas.
but I like my cars stiff. the rear end feels a little light and starts to slide on hard turns.

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