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Toyota Yaris: Features/Changes I'd Like to See

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Re: One more thing... [tjw1308] by backy
Sep 23, 2006 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: bottgers (Sep 01, 2006 11:40 am)

Sorry, there are some features I find essential on cars in this class. One is side bags and curtains. The Accent has them standard. They are optional on the Yaris--when you can find them. My biggest turn-off on the Yaris is that I've had two dealers tell me that cars with side bags/curtains and ABS are almost non-existant--they just aren't getting any in.
 
Another feature I think is important is a 60/40 split folding seat. I've used that feature many times over the years. It's extra on the Yaris hatch. So are other features I find useful such as a rear window defroster (actually that one is really important to me), rear wiper, tachometer (is that even available on the Yaris hatch with a stick??), driver's seat height adjuster (not available on the Yaris hatch), and variable intermittant wipers (just used that feature today).
 
A 2007 Yaris hatch with A/C, 4-speaker CD stereo, side airbags, 60/40 rear seat, rear defroster, and rear wiper is $13,610 MSRP (also TMV). An Accent GS with the same equipment (except a 6-speaker stereo) is $12,345 MSRP and $12,039 TMV ($11,769 invoice). I think $1600 less plus getting the height adjuster, tach, variable wipers, and even a rear spoiler ($435 extra on the Yaris) is a pretty good deal. Oh, plus the 10-year warranty of course. But I wouldn't get an Accent GS anyway. I'd go for the SE with ABS, power package, sport suspension, and 16" alloys standard.
 
I did notice you are now comparing the TMVs of the cars vs. MSRP for the Yaris and invoice for the other car, to determine comparative value. That's a good idea, otherwise the Yaris is at an even bigger disadvantage.
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Re: One more thing... [backy] by bamacar
Sep 23, 2006 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 23, 2006 2:21 pm)

Two features I find very important these days also are factory cruise control and an aux audio input. The most important things to me in this class is a slick manual shifter and 4 doors. The Accent sedan had neither feature and a lousy manual shifter. Thus the Yaris or Fit are still on my list.
 
I too can't understand how hard it is to find a manual transmission Yaris sedan with the Airbag and power package. There are still zero in the Southeast Region.
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Re: One more thing... [bamacar] by tjw1308
Sep 23, 2006 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (Sep 23, 2006 3:06 pm)

In fairness, the Yaris doesn't have factory cruise either.
 
The aux input works well though, and the transmission feels a little "slicker" to me too .
 
If you can find one at a decent price, the Fit may be a good option for what you're looking for.
 
That's a big "If" though lol...
 
T
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Re: One more thing... [bamacar] by backy
Sep 23, 2006 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (Sep 23, 2006 3:06 pm)

I prefer to have cruise on my cars too, but it's not a deal-breaker because I need it only about 3-4 times a year. Same with the aux input--I'd like to have one, but there are inexpensive aftermarket options to allow me to connect an iPod, for example, to any stereo.
 
I'd love a slick manual shifter, ala Accord or Mazda3, but IMO none of the current low-end cars has one. The Fit's is too notchy, the Versa's is too clunky, and the Yaris' is too rare--I haven't even been able to find one to test drive. But based on reviews such as C/D's, it appears the Yaris' stick is OK but not great. Same for the Accent's. At least Hyundai offers a short-throw shifter kit through dealers, so it would be covered under the new car warranty.
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Re: One more thing... [backy] by tjw1308
Sep 23, 2006 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 23, 2006 5:09 pm)

I'd say the Versa's is pretty close to the Yaris in terms of feel. If you thought the Versa's was clunky I can almost guarantee you wouldn't like the Yaris's anyway.
 
I'm thinking about the quick shift kit (which Toyota offers too btw), but want someone else to try it on their baby first
 
T
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Re: One more thing... [backy] by bamacar
Sep 23, 2006 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 23, 2006 5:09 pm)

I disagree about the shifter. The Fit is excellent, and the Yaris is good. The Versa is average. All of the reviews I have seen have also complained about the Hyundai/Kia shifter being below average; none complained about the auto.
 
Here is the Car and Driver quote, "like the Suzuki, the Hyundai was hobbled by a sloppy shifter." Not comparable to the Yaris, Fit, or even to the Versa by their standards or mine.
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Re: One more thing... [bamacar] by backy
Sep 23, 2006 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (Sep 23, 2006 5:32 pm)

I was very surprised by the Fit's shifter. From reading reports like the C/D comparo, I expected it to be the usual excellent Honda stick shift. I was disappointed that it was very notchy, such that it was not fun to use. I actually preferred the automatic Fit. The Versa's shifter emitted a loud "clunk" on each shift, which was intolerable to me. It could have been a defect, but I have no way of knowing. I would like to try the Yaris' stick but haven't been able to find one to test.
 
The funny thing was, I expected the Accent's shifter to be terrible based on the reviews like C/D's. But I didn't think it was bad at all. It wasn't crisp like the Fit's, but it wasn't notchy or loud either, and the clutch was light and a pleasure to use. The main problem with it is it's a tall shifter. Hence the short-throw kit would be a check-off for me.
 
What did you think of the Accent's stick when you drove it?
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Re: One more thing... [backy] by bamacar
Sep 23, 2006 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 23, 2006 5:43 pm)

Maybe it is just preference. I thought the Fit was fun: short throws and slightly notchy. The Yaris was a little vanilla, but smooth and easy. The Accent felt kind of loose and long throws.
 
I use my cruise multiple times a day and I like factory versions so maybe a Hyundai in the future, but not this go round.
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Re: Still flying off the lot in Indiana [fearturtle44] by randydriver
Sep 23, 2006 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: bamacar (Sep 23, 2006 5:55 pm)

my grandparents had cruise in there cars so I guess it goes suit a certain sector of society. I myself do not care for it.
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Re: Still flying off the lot in Indiana [randydriver] by bamacar
Sep 23, 2006 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: randydriver (Sep 23, 2006 3:53 pm)

Yes, people who drive on highways and want to stay at a constant speed without effort.

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