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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Hybrid Cars
#60 of 88 AutoStop
Mar 16, 2005 (8:06 am)
quote ETroy:Why recycle energy if it can't be used to drive the wheels?"-end quote
Same reason your favorite car the Lupo shuts down at stop lights....The Chevy Hybrid uses that energy "in part" to achieve it's higher MPG rating by keeping all the truck's functions running while the gas engine is shut off.
Mar 16, 2005 (10:57 am)
Well Volkswagen says Lupo is NOT a hybrid. Doesn't sound like this pickup is a hybrid either?
#62 of 88 IT IS a Mild form of Hybrid....no doubts
Mar 16, 2005 (11:00 am)
I don't see much difference from the IMA used by Honda, other than the AC outlets...
Auto engine start and stop at speeds lower than 13 mph
Normal and continuous modes for onboard generator use
Energy storage module
seem's pretty hybridized to me.
Here's a question:
Does any "non-hybrid" car or truck have regen braking and energy storage modules?
these trucks aren't actually propelled by the electricity they generate. Instead, an electric generator nestled in their transmission cases enable GM's hybrids to shut down their otherwise conventional gasoline engines while coasting or sitting at a stoplight."
So it CAN MOVE without using the gas engine and without the driver taking any action to shut the engine down (unlike a gas-only truck) and it does have an ISG (unlike a gas-only truck) and it does have two 20-amp integrated power sources in the rear (unlike a gas-only truck.)
#63 of 88 No it's not..... Re: IT IS a Mild form of Hybrid
Mar 17, 2005 (8:13 am)
"I don't see much difference from the IMA used by Honda... Auto engine start and stop at speeds lower than 13 mph / Normal and continuous modes for onboard generator use / Energy storage module /Regenerative braking"
Yes, but the IMA does one extra thing that makes Honda a hybrid, and Chevy NOT:
- uses the stored electricity to push the car down the road (+14hp)
Having two sources of power to drive the wheels is the very definition of "hybrid power". The Chevy Pickup only has ONE power driving the wheels.
#64 of 88 I say again.....
Mar 17, 2005 (8:23 am)
Here's a question:
Does any "non-hybrid" car or truck on this planet have both regen braking and energy storage modules?
If the Chevy Silverado is not a Hybrid, how would it be "labeled?"
Mar 17, 2005 (8:37 am)
"A normal car with regen capabilities". The Chevy pickup doesn't do anything a normal car can not do (shut off at stops, provide plugs to power TVs/radios). Even the regen braking can be done with a normal car, via using the starter motor.
But definitely NOT a hybrid. A hybrid dumps the electrical power to the wheels.
#66 of 88 Re: a normal car [electrictroy]
Mar 17, 2005 (11:41 am)
No, your definition of a hybrid "dumps electrical power to the wheels."
#68 of 88 Re: no kidding sherlock [electrictroy]
Mar 18, 2005 (6:12 am)
Doesn't the Chevy keep the heat/AC and other ancilliary systems running while the engine is turned off? That's not something any other vehicle can do, even if you manually shut it down. Plus all electrical systems will reboot everytime you turn the key back on. More importantly, you can't turn your vehicle off while it's coasting because you would lose brake/steering assist.
#69 of 88 Avoid the personal please
by pf_flyer HOST
Mar 18, 2005 (7:13 am)
Let's stick to the topics and not fall into the trap of talking about each other!