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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Hybrid Cars
#55 of 88 good point Gary....
by larsb
Mar 09, 2005 (11:45 am)
seem's pretty hybridized to me.
Here's a question:
Does any "non-hybrid" car or truck have regen braking and energy storage modules?
Seems not......
#56 of 88 Re: good point Gary.... [larsb]
by gagrice
Mar 09, 2005 (11:52 am)
I can see a market for someone that needs AC on the job. I wonder what kind of EPA rating it gets if they have to give the 8 yr 100k mile warranty.
Warranty Information
For vehicles sold in the United States, in addition to the Bumper-To-Bumper Coverage described in the Warranty Booklet, General Motors will warrant certain Hybrid components for each 2005 Chevrolet Silverado Hybrid (hereafter referred to as Hybrid) for 8 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 kilometers), whichever comes first, from the original in-service date of the vehicle, against warrantable repairs to the specific Hybrid components of the vehicle.
#57 of 88 Re: good point Gary.... [gagrice]
by rfruth
Mar 11, 2005 (2:54 pm)
GM should have done this right after the Arab Oil Embargo of the 70s but I need to give credit where credit is due, who else offers a hybrid option in a P/U, oh & it's not just for fleet customers anymore. Here is a review from thecarconnection.com - snip - General Motors is a little bit behind in the hybrid race. But they're starting to catch up. Although more advanced hybrid models from GM are on the way over the next two years, for now the company is offering a "mild hybrid" version of its big Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups, keeping the same V-8 powertrain but claiming a fuel economy improvement of 10 to 13 percent.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8254
#58 of 88 Re: good point Gary.... [rfruth]
by xwesx
Mar 11, 2005 (7:49 pm)
"Releasing your foot from the dash causes a sudden start of the engine but no serious surge forward."
Haha! I hope you're flexible. Exactly where is the brake pedal on this truck?! ;-D
-Wes-
Mar 16, 2005 (8:01 am)
The truck uses regenerative braking.
But none of that electrical energy goes to the wheels. So, what's the point? Why recycle energy if it can't be used to drive the wheels?
troy
#60 of 88 AutoStop
by larsb
Mar 16, 2005 (8:06 am)
quote ETroy:Why recycle energy if it can't be used to drive the wheels?"-end quote
Same reason your favorite car the Lupo shuts down at stop lights....The Chevy Hybrid uses that energy "in part" to achieve it's higher MPG rating by keeping all the truck's functions running while the gas engine is shut off.
Mar 16, 2005 (10:57 am)
Well Volkswagen says Lupo is NOT a hybrid. Doesn't sound like this pickup is a hybrid either?
troy
#62 of 88 IT IS a Mild form of Hybrid....no doubts
by larsb
Mar 16, 2005 (11:00 am)
I don't see much difference from the IMA used by Honda, other than the AC outlets...
Auto engine start and stop at speeds lower than 13 mph
Normal and continuous modes for onboard generator use
Energy storage module
Regenerative braking
http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/hybrid/
seem's pretty hybridized to me.
Here's a question:
Does any "non-hybrid" car or truck have regen braking and energy storage modules?
Seems not......
these trucks aren't actually propelled by the electricity they generate. Instead, an electric generator nestled in their transmission cases enable GM's hybrids to shut down their otherwise conventional gasoline engines while coasting or sitting at a stoplight."
So it CAN MOVE without using the gas engine and without the driver taking any action to shut the engine down (unlike a gas-only truck) and it does have an ISG (unlike a gas-only truck) and it does have two 20-amp integrated power sources in the rear (unlike a gas-only truck.)
#63 of 88 No it's not..... Re: IT IS a Mild form of Hybrid
by electrictroy
Mar 17, 2005 (8:13 am)
"I don't see much difference from the IMA used by Honda... Auto engine start and stop at speeds lower than 13 mph / Normal and continuous modes for onboard generator use / Energy storage module /Regenerative braking"
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Yes, but the IMA does one extra thing that makes Honda a hybrid, and Chevy NOT:
- uses the stored electricity to push the car down the road (+14hp)
Having two sources of power to drive the wheels is the very definition of "hybrid power". The Chevy Pickup only has ONE power driving the wheels.
troy
#64 of 88 I say again.....
by larsb
Mar 17, 2005 (8:23 am)
Here's a question:
Does any "non-hybrid" car or truck on this planet have both regen braking and energy storage modules?
If the Chevy Silverado is not a Hybrid, how would it be "labeled?"