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#28 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [gagrice #27] by sebring95 Jun 21, 2004 (4:38 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 12:14 pm) When I was in corporate, fleet buying was under my supervision. Ford is extremely aggresive on their fleet sales. Our statistics pretty much left us with operating costs that were equal regardless of GM/dodge/ford. Ford generally had a big advantage on the trucks, $1,000 sometimes. Once in awhile, GM would push a particular model that would be a better deal. Dodge rarely did any selling on the fleet side for trucks. GM pushed the cars hard, luminas would come in $500-$1,000 under a Taurus. I understand that Ford is now backing off of fleet sales, at least on the car side. Not sure they'll ever back off of the trucks, they've got a big profit center on them. GM will probably push these into fleets, particularly because fleets are more tolerant of problems and sometimes have better warranties. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 6:57 am)
#29 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [sebring95 #28] by gagrice Jun 21, 2004 (6:57 am)
Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 4:38 am) That fits exactly what I am seeing in the field. Also what I heard, that Ford was less expensive.
#30 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [gagrice #27] by midnightcowboy Jun 21, 2004 (7:24 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 12:14 pm) >Mostly Ford a few Chevys and Never a Dodge. Curious? Why never a Dodge? Is a Dodge unreliable? Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:14 am) sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 8:29 am) gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:43 am) and 1 more...
#31 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [midnightcowboy #30] by gagrice Jun 21, 2004 (8:14 am)
Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jun 21, 2004 7:24 am) Why never a Dodge? Is a Dodge unreliable? Not at all. They refuse to give into big corporations on fleet sales. As Sebring95 pointed out Ford usually gives the biggest discount. It all has to do with dollars. I am sure to Exxon or BP a 3/4 ton truck is just that, no matter who makes it. They go for the bottom dollar. If Chevy or Dodge would buckle under they would get the sales. Replies to this message: sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 8:29 am) gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:43 am) sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 9:22 am)
#32 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [gagrice #31] by sebring95 Jun 21, 2004 (8:29 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:14 am) all has to do with dollars. I am sure to Exxon or BP a 3/4 ton truck is just that, no matter who makes it. They go for the bottom dollar. Exactly. We were buying between 700-900 cars, 300 vans, 300 pickups, 85 medium-duty chassis per year, and if you can save $50 per unit you'll do it as long as the operational costs are similar. The operational and resale was always better on the toyotas/hondas, but the upfront cost was many thousands higher which would never materialize in overall savings. Same thing though on the 1/2 tons, fuel burn can be an issue and if one model gets significantly better mpg, it can correlate to cheaper operating costs and give you an advantage. At the time I was involved, chevy trucks weren't any more efficient than the Fords. However, I would think now with the V8's, GM probably already has an upperhand in efficiency. Another 10% with the hybrid system could be significant. My Tahoe was rated 1-2mpg higher than the Expedition was when we were shopping. Add another 1.5mpg and you've got a couple thousand dollars savings over a 100k miles service life. Significant when you've got 2000 trucks! Replies to this message: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:43 am) sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 9:22 am)
#33 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [sebring95 #32] by gagrice Jun 21, 2004 (8:43 am)
Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 8:29 am) I think Chevy has always had a slight edge in MPG over Ford. Where I work the big companies only buy diesels. They keep them for 3 years and send them out. If you get a Truck from Alaska with only a few miles it may be misleading. The last I heard an hour of idle time was the equivalent of 35-45 miles of driving. Many vehicles are started at 6 am and shut off at 7 pm. May never move from the power rail. It is easy to calculate. 400-500k miles equivalency is common. Fuel consumption is not a big issue in the oil fields, wonder why? Replies to this message: sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 9:22 am)
#34 of 87 Re: Government statistics on Hybrid trucks [gagrice #33] by sebring95 Jun 21, 2004 (9:22 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:43 am) Most trucks now have hour meters so it's easy to figure out on the resale side. Hybrid GM truck won't save anything over a normal gasser if idling is all it's doing. Although the built-in generator could be useful if you normally haul around a gen set anyway.
#35 of 87 they're kidding right? by aspesisteve Jul 15, 2004 (9:19 am)
what genious came up with a hybrid truck that gets another 1-2 miles per gallon? When you need parts and service on this, there will only one option...Mr. Goodwrench I wouldn't take this truck even if it was $2,000 less when they want people to volunteer to pay more for it. Is the warranty at least 100k miles on the hybrig stuff? Replies to this message: john1701a (Jul 15, 2004 10:16 am)
#36 of 87 Re: they're kidding right? [aspesisteve] by john1701a Jul 15, 2004 (10:16 am)
Replying to: aspesisteve (Jul 15, 2004 9:19 am) The humorous part is that the error-of-margin for measuring MPG is actually greater than the MPG improvement itself! How will anyone even know what benefit they are receiving... unless they only drive on the highway, since there is a ZERO percent improvement for high-speed cruising. The auto-stop ability is completely worthless unless you actually stop. And because this type of "hybrid" lacks the ability to contribute to propulsion power, driving without any long stoplights won't really benefit either. How exactly can they claim this is a "hybrid" vehicle? There wasn't even a component change from a design perspective. All they did was increase the size of the already existing battery & starter and change the way they react. All else is the same. The 3 currently available hybrids and the 2 upcoming have much, much greater differences from the traditional design. If nothing else, the "hybrid" from GM shouldn't cost so much, since they didn't do that much. JOHN
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