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#1 of 52 tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state?
by bs0
Oct 17, 2006 (7:40 pm)
Hi,
I have a small commute to work and looking for a fun yet practical car. I will be leasing as i will not be doing a lot of miles and we own our other car (rav4).
So, options are acura tsx (semi-cool & luxury) vs sedan si (very-cool & not so many luxuries)....Both i would get in manual (obviously Si is only MT).
What are peoples thought's on +ve/-ve of these?
thanks,
Brett
#2 of 52 leasing in another state
by bs0
Oct 17, 2006 (7:42 pm)
Oh, and another thing...i live in illinois....i gather that illinois does not have very good sales tax laws related to leasing....I am Australian, so haven't leased in this country before....Can you lease a car in another state (ie wisconsin) and save some $$?
#3 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [bs0]
by pham0167
Oct 18, 2006 (9:07 am)
If I've got the extra $10k, I'd go with the TSX. I test drove a TSX before I purchased a Civic EX. TSX very nice and roomy, leather heated seats, automatic climate control, blue tooth, heated windows...about the same power and gas mileage as a Civic Si (Si has slightly better gas mileage, TSX has slightly better horsepower, it's a trade off). TSX is probably built better with better materials as well (comes with longer warranty), Civic has a lot of plastic on the inside. TSX will be a lot quieter due to better material and sound proofing and a better sound system.
Also, the TSX is just a rebrand of the European Honda Accord. TSX and Civics are completely different classes of car. Accord is a midsize sedan, TSX is luxury midsize, and Civic is compact
If it makes a difference, Acura salesperson and customer service are much much much better than Honda sales/service.
#4 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [pham0167]
by nj2pa2nc
Oct 18, 2006 (9:57 am)
I am also considering buying either the civic si sedan or the tsx. I do not think there is a price for the si sedan yet so the price difference might be a little closer. I own a 05 civic ex-se The dealer where I bought the civic also sells acuras. I am waiting for the 08 tsx since it will be a new design. Right now I am leaning towards that. A good friend is the service manager for acura so he told me he will try to get me a good price when I decide to buy but give me great service deals
#5 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [nj2pa2nc]
by pham0167
Oct 18, 2006 (10:33 am)
Pricing for the Civic Si sedan is expected to be the same as the current Si Coupe, maybe 1k or 2k more. Eitherway, i don't think there will be a big change in price difference between the Si and TSX. It's expected to be released in December, dealers have already taken pre-orders since they will be tough to find. All of the Honda dealers i've gone to in Minnesota have taken pre-orders since September.
#6 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [nj2pa2nc]
by robr2
Oct 18, 2006 (10:38 am)
The Civic SI coupe is about a $2500 premium over the EX. I'd expect the same for the SI Sedan.
#7 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state?
by bs0
Oct 18, 2006 (11:28 am)
if the si sedan is within $1k of the si coupe (worst case), there is still around a $5k price diff between the si sedan and the tsx invoice price (assuming i can get around invoice).
All the points made about the tsx better build quality, quieter and more luxurious are steering me in that direction....although the price of the civic and the fact that it is 'more cool!' is tempting!!
Any answers on the state question?
#8 of 52 Re: leasing in another state [bs0]
by robr2
Oct 19, 2006 (7:53 am)
Oh, and another thing...i live in illinois....i gather that illinois does not have very good sales tax laws related to leasing....I am Australian, so haven't leased in this country before....Can you lease a car in another state (ie wisconsin) and save some $$?
Taxes are based on where the vehicle is registered - not where it is purchased/leased. So the answer is no.
#9 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [pham0167]
by nj2pa2nc
Oct 19, 2006 (12:41 pm)
The honda dealer here in nc told me that the si sedan would be hard to find and that I should put a deposit on one. I am not in any real rush to get one especially without being able to try one. If I get to see one first maybe I will not like it. I am actually waiting for the 08 models anyway. I also do not like to be pressured.
#10 of 52 Re: tsx vs civic sedan si & purchase state? [nj2pa2nc]
by mhattrup
Nov 04, 2006 (12:09 pm)
They will be very different driving experiences. I recently purchased an Si Coupe and it is much more entertaining than the TSX is IF you like the snorty exhaust note and a much more in your face overall driving expereince. I've test driven a manual TSX and found it to be much more refined than the Si .... too refined for my taste. It had very smooth and subdued acceleration sounds while having nice tight handling - it was just too "subtle". The ride was much smoother and less "jiggly" than the Si. Now the Si sedan might be a tad less in your face than the coupe but I don't think they will domesticate it down (or up .. depending on your opinion) to the level of the TSX. The Si leaves a "YEEHAW grin" on my face and just begs to be driven hard the TSX left me with a "that's nice" smile on my face but you couldn't tell you were driving it hard (if that makes any sense).
Go drive em...then pick your poison - the warranty on a Civic can be extended to match the Accura if that is a concern and you'd still be out less coin (assuming you can get the Si for MSRP which might be tough).