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#4 of 18 Re: Mustang gt vs. gxp [gxpjoeyp]
by skinderdine
Jul 08, 2006 (2:06 pm)
That really surprises me, However I'm glad to hear the good news. I do know for a fact, that it will out run a Ford Crown Vic with a Police interceptor (not counting motorola) just the car itself. It is a 2004 vs. gxp 06. I know do to having to drive one at work. Ford will generally top out at 140 as the Gxp is said to have topped out at 152 (according to a forum page on grandprix.net.
#5 of 18 Mustang GT vs. GXP
by ocmike3
Jul 08, 2006 (11:26 am)
on paper they are pretty evenly matched. I'd say it depends on the driver, weather and timing. I've beat a new Mustang GT and been beaten by one at the traffic light launch; run for a block or two... toss up.
to jccantfly591 - you will get Zero hp to the rear wheels of a GXP - the GXP is a front drive car.
#6 of 18 Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts
by v8jim
Jul 09, 2006 (1:56 pm)
I have never done any track racing. Have owned a Grand Am GT and now own a GXP. Love them both. Both underrated. Stoplight raced an M3 convertible recently with GXP. Don't think it was new. Driver was heavier than me plus he had a passenger. I weigh 170. Smoked him off the line, at 85 mph he was still well behind. I slowed down at that point. He seemed angry and kept accelerating....very fast...very dangerous. DO NOT REPEAT THIS STUNT!!! Have also been challenged by some "tuners", all have lost to the GXP. I HAVE ABANDONED THIS PRACTICE, IT'S TOO DANGEROUS. Have not had the GXP over 100 mph. Did it regularly with the GA GT. Handled great. Its rigid body and tight suspension made high speed driving fun. At 94000 miles, I just replaced the original brake pads!!!! If you look at hp, torque, and weight, A GXP should keep up with MustGT with an automatic, if not beat it. Some members here have written that they ran below 14's in the 1/4 mile. I believe it. I think Pontiac's official 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times are cautious.
#7 of 18 Re: Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts [v8jim]
by tlauro
Jul 10, 2006 (8:46 am)
Here's a good sampling of folks who have tracked the GXP. As you can see, just like with the Supercharged versions, knowing how to launch and drive is key. That's why I'm so vocal about magazine racing.
# 1)__13.64
102.5 2.08__1stgxp_________|CAI|mufflers(GXP)
# 2)__13.68
102.3 2.09__tony____________|STOCK(no headlight)(GXP)
# 3)__13.76
101.3 2.12__DavidS1567______|STOCK(no headlight)(GXP)
# 4)__13.86
101.1 2.12__killagxp_________|OpenCone(no headlight)(GXP)
# 5)__13.88
99.30 2.09__06GXP__________|Stock(GXP)
# 6)__13.88
101.6 2.20__CGreen_________|VectorTune(GXP)
# 7)__13.90
102.0 ______Atek_gt2_______|CAI|no res|muffler s(GXP)
# 8)__13.97
101.1 2.21__kissmyss03______|CAI(MonteCarlo)
# 9)__14.01
98.53 2.07__LIGHTFIGHTER___|STOCK(no headlight)(GXP)
# 10)_14.01
100.5 2.19__slippingaway_____|STOCK(GXP)
# 11)_14.19
100.2 2.27__BigMike_________|STOCK(GXP)
#8 of 18 Re: Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts [tlauro]
by v8jim
Jul 10, 2006 (2:26 pm)
Thanks, tlauro. When these guys write "opencone" or "vectortune" do you know if those refer to performance filters and intakes? does no headlight reduce weight? anyway, with a car this fast, i applaud your efforts to promote track racking b/c street racing is just a bad idea....
#9 of 18 Re: Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts [v8jim]
by skinderdine
Jul 11, 2006 (7:33 am)
I wish more people thought like you did, It would make my job alot easier. There is nothing worse than having to tell a loved one there kid is dead due to some idiot racing on the street. I can add a drunk driver also!
#10 of 18 Re: Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts [v8jim]
by tlauro
Jul 11, 2006 (9:28 pm)
Vector Tune is references an aftermarket tune on the computer controls of the engine and tranny. open cone is simply an open cone filter under the hood....IMO go with a cold air intake or fenderwell intake, CAI or FWI.
Opening up the headlight allows more air into the stock airbox. I don't do it since I have a FWI and run my car as I would on the street.
Email me and I'll point you in some great directions/links.
#11 of 18 Re: Mustang gt vs. gxp [gxpjoeyp]
by bubbaman999
Oct 21, 2006 (3:39 pm)
I am a little confused, the 2005 Mustang GT is quoted at 0-60 in 5.1 secs (for the 5spd) by Motortrend and 13.5 sec
103.6 mph for the 1/4 mile. While I love my 06 GXP, I think the mustang can take the GXP.
Sorry,
Gary
#12 of 18 Re: Mustang gt vs. gxp [bubbaman999]
by tlauro
Oct 22, 2006 (1:40 pm)
yes, the new style MGT's can and will take a GXP by 1-4 lengths depending on the launch of both. The MGT will have to be a stick shift though. Autos aren't nearly as fast and I've seen most run low to mid 14's. I can hook up and hit 13.8's pretty typically in my GXP and have been edged out by GT's at the track.....but I've not seen one go below 13.6's yet....stock that is.
#13 of 18 Re: Mustang GT v. GXP and some additional thoughts [v8jim]
by gemyk
Jan 06, 2007 (6:17 am)
This is highly unlikely. M3 driver must not have been racing or they weighed 300+ pounds each. M3 hardtop can run a 13.4 in the 1/4, the droptop can run a 13.7.