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Pontiac Grand Prix, Car Safety, Sedan
#99 of 213 Ex-Pontiac dealers??
Mar 29, 2011 (9:23 am)
I am staying away from them for the lack of talent and most are Buick/GMC dealers under the new Govt. Mtrs..In replacing parts, the service dept will pick the oldest design in their inventory and it will probably be the same engineering level as your failed part..so it will have a limited life..
Been there on "Steering Shafts" commonly known as the ISS, 3 in 30k miles, however 55k it seems to be working..3 batteries in 30k miles, and seems to be okay..Service uses the "first in-first out theory..2006 Pontiac Grand Prix GT
Been thru 53 autos in my life, all Big3 except 2 Porsches..Current GM car is a 2006 Pontiac GT, purchased used at local Caddy dealer w/4300 miles..Traded in a 2002 Olds Intrigue w/120k mi., purchased new, and also had 2 other Intrigues, 1998 and 1999..The 99 and 02 were great little cars, the 98 was repurchased by GM after 26k miles due to steering and brakes issues.
I would not expect too much help from any GM dealer on the extinct Pontiac line, except high money grab..I was using the local dealer, however after 8k miles on Hankook tires purchased and balanced by the GM dealer the rear tires flat spotted due to alignment problems which the dealer had checked previously as OK..Dealers are too lazy to reslot the struts, however I have found that Chevy dealers are trustworthy..had the same problem with the 02 Intrigue and the Chevy dealer after 70k miles reslotted all 4 struts and after another 50k miles all was still in alignment..so I was shafted twice by the Olds/Caddy on prior aligments..
I am not a stop-light jockey, however I do travel fast on the interstates and demand "no shake", so balance+alignment are vital..and at rotation time if the car is smooth, I never rebalance..If shake develops then we check for a missinng weight for they are marked when installed..
In reviewing the recent problems owners are having on this forum, I will chuck the car immediately for it is not worth pumping any amount of money into a dead model..I got this car for 1/2 of original MSRP in June 2007..Pretty car with sunroof, leather, chrome wheels, and Monsoon..black w/tan interior..Only real concern with the car is a front end creak when acceleratoring from a stop..which disappears after a few miles..I live in Venice, Fla and the car never been exposed to snow or pot-holed roads..
Let's face it, the GPGT is a warmed over Chevy Impala with maybe a better suspension, and the supercharged V-6 is fun at the higher speeds and gets the triple-digit test on every interstate venture..comes alive after 60 mph..
My other car is a 2010 Mustang GT w/track pkg...bought used w/1365 miles..
The best Grand Prixs were back in the mid-70s, had a 74, 76, and a 77. LJ coupes with big-block V-8s..great road beasts..
#100 of 213 Re: Service Traction Control/ABS [aschoen]
Mar 30, 2011 (9:28 am)
No problem, I would just like to assist you in getting this resolved. I do understand that they want you to have a GM dealer look at the vehicle. This is just a standard operating procedures so we can get technical information and try to resolve your concerns and find a resolution for this. I understand you would prefer a independent mechanic; however, it has to be a GM dealer due to the fact they are contracted with us. There are many different reasons for this. I apologize for any inconvenience. But these cases with Customer Assistance are monitored. The more people that have a case for a particular issue the more attention the issue will get.
GM Customer Service
#101 of 213 Re: Service Traction Control/ABS [pjgolfalot]
Apr 01, 2011 (8:23 am)
UPDATE: GM customer service Lucy called me, as a district manager responsible, said that "due to the age and mileage of vehicle" would not be able to assist me at this time. I asked, "so if the ABS lights go on again, we can assume it is not due to the age and mileage but a manufacturer's defect?" She replied, "you are free to call us back at that time". So I told her "most people on the Edmunds blog are upset paying for one service on the vehicle around $600 and then having to come back repeatedly for different wheels." I said, "if I knew what I do now, I would have just kept driving with regular brakes instead of potentially paying $2500 to keep the ABS light off. And once you pay for one wheel, if you don't pay for the next you feel like you wasted your first $600. "
#102 of 213 Re: Service Traction Control/ABS [gjw467]
Apr 05, 2011 (10:05 am)
I apologize you did not get the resolution you wanted. Every case is handled on a case by case basis. I recommend anyone who is experiencing concerns contact, myself or GM Customer Assistance. This way we can look into your specific situation and address your concerns.
GM Customer Service
#103 of 213 Re: Service Traction Control/ABS [gmcustsvc]
Apr 05, 2011 (4:46 pm)
So...In the last week I have taken my car to a GM dealership. They ran their own set of diagnostics. I was told that the speed sensor/hub that has been replaced in my car (twice) is an aftermarket part and is not reading the speed of my one wheel properly. Little do they know that my mechanic also replaced one of my rear speed sensor/hubs also, with the same model part, and there was no comments as to that one not working. I am not saying that GM is trying to get my money because the guy who helped me with my car at GM was honest and didn't beg me to have them fix it....just said it's good to at least get diagnostic done at GM. Anyways, he told me that in order to even find out if the problem is something other than the speed sensors....that I would have to change this front speed sensor...for a third time. After that we can tell if is really something else. In other words, I have to spend $500 on a factory/GM sensor and hope that it is really the problem and resolves my problem. As I said before Christina, I have already invested about 1500 into this car. It's rediculous to know taht I am being told I must spend another 500 and "hope" it fixes the problem. The ABS grinding sound and feeling has trickled off but the lights are still on. The only reason I was able to resolve my stalling problem was from finding this forum and others who had the same problem. CLEAN THE THROTTLE BODY!!!! it worked!!!! i spent over 400 trying to resolve that problem and not one mechanic...at 4 different shops...ever even thought to do that. I'm past frustrated....esp considering GM told me unless I wanna spend another 2000 its time to look at another car..... No recalls, no discounts, no free replacement to an obviously common GM/pontiac problem. Makes ya wonder if this is why they stopped making the pontiac to begin with. Any advice? I'd be glad to hear it
#104 of 213 Re: Service Traction Control/ABS [pjgolfalot]
Apr 08, 2011 (7:58 am)
Could you please send me your case number in an email? I would like to look further into the case.
Caron, GM Customer Service
#105 of 213 Re: Traction/ABS systems...among other things! [aschoen]
Apr 19, 2011 (10:04 am)
I decided to go to my mechanic and see if he can find the problem thats causing my ABS to pulsate and shutter at slow speeds and slow turns. (also the ABS and Traction Control Service Lights go on, just like with everyone else) well he found a code C0040 RF Wheel Speed Sensor Circuit Malfunction. So he changed the Right Front Wheel Hub. (it was all rusty inside) (i got the Timkin Hub) The problem is still there even worst now the ABS shutters on the first turn i make and the light go on instantly and my abs turns off and i have no abs during braking, so in the rain my wheels lockup and the car skids. I really do not feel like changing all the wheel hubs since its so expensive. So i hope some one can help me. I have a 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT 130k
Im glad i was able to help some people here with the Stalling situation.
#106 of 213 Re: Traction/ABS systems...among other things! [mishken84]
Apr 19, 2011 (11:34 am)
Have the dealier check the ABS control (computer) module (in engine compartment). that is what is is wrong with mine (2004 Grand Prix GT - 115K miles). I unplugged it as it costs over $1000 to replace and I'm not spening that much on this car. the lights stay on in car dashboard (including brake light) but ABS has quit coming on and off when it shouldn't.
#107 of 213 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [gmcustsvc]
Apr 20, 2011 (2:52 pm)
GM mechanic since 1983. 99% sure it is a wheel speed sensor harness at the front hub-sensor assembly. Can get harness online or at advance auto parts. Dooman part #970-042. This is for 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix
#108 of 213 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [mike5858]
Apr 21, 2011 (7:30 am)
I'm sure you good mechanic, but I had my wheel speed sensor harnes at front hub sensor assembly changed - it didn't help.