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Pontiac Grand Prix Traction Control/STS/ABS

204 messages,  Last post on Jan 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

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#195 of 204 Re: Traction Control/ABS [terryq1] by terryq1

Aug 31, 2012 (6:23 pm)

Replying to: terryq1 (Aug 30, 2012 8:37 pm)
On further examination of the failed harness, I found a break in one of the wires inside of the insulation a few inches from the connector. This is an area where the wire would be twisted every time the steering wheel would be turned. The only reason I can understand for the wire to have any voltage at all is because the two broken ends must have been touching. The copper wire was also black and corroded.

#196 of 204 brake/track system problem by hrtuck

Oct 23, 2012 (5:24 pm)

hey guys, im going through the exact same thing with my 2004 pontiac grand prix. and i did my research and found a recall that described these issues. I contacted pontiac about this and they advised me to take the car to get a diagnois to make sure its a problem that relates to the recall and they will reimburse me the money it costed to get the dx and pay full cost for the problem. below im going to copy and paste all of the recall info. Hope this helps for all of us
 
Recall ID # 51199 - SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
 
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Recall Date:
  
JUN 23, 2004
  
Model Affected:
  
2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
  
Summary:
  
CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES WERE PRODUCED WITH LOWER THAN SPECIFIED TORQUE ON BOTH FRONT BRAKE CALIPER TO STEERING KNUCKLE ATTACHMENT BOLTS. WITH IMPROPER TORQUE, THE CLAMP LOAD AT THE JOINT MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE TO PREVENT MOVEMENT BETWEEN THE CALIPER BRACKET AND KNUCKLE.
 
Consequences:
  
DEPENDING ON WHETHER ONE OR BOTH BOLTS BACKS OUT OR FRACTURES, THE RESULT CAN BE LOCKING OF THE AFFECTED WHEEL DURING BRAKING AND AN ABRUPT STEERING INPUT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE LOCKED WHEEL, REDUCED BRAKING AND NOISE FROM THE AFFECTED WHEEL, OR SEVERING OF A BRAKE HOSE, INCREASED BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL, AND REDUCED STEERING CONTROL. REDUCED BRAKING OR STEERING CONTROL COULD CAUSE A CRASH.
 
Remedy:
  
DEALERS ARE TO TIGHTEN BOTH BOLTS TO THE SPECIFIED TORQUE. OWNER NOTIFICATION BEGAN ON JUNE 28, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT CHEVROLET 1-800-630-2438 OR PONTIAC 1-800-620-7668.
 
Potential Units Affected:
  
47991
  
Notes:
  
GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
 
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2004/pontiac/grand_prix/recalls/#ixzz2AAflaNRm

#197 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [gmcustsvc] by attilabokor

Jan 02, 2013 (6:47 am)

Replying to: gmcustsvc (May 12, 2010 2:02 pm)
Hi I Have an 04 Grand Prix GT last 8 numbers of the VIN : 41367899. After a very cold night(i was at the mall and I parked the car outside) the Service the ABS and the Service the Traction messages appeared. After I shot down the car and restarted the messages disappeared. I had to do this multiple times during the last 2 winters. This only happening when it's cold(I'm in MI) and I do a sharp turn. Just this morning (it's cold again) the messages will not go away even if I restarted the car multiple times Please give me an idea what I can do, thanks

#198 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [attilabokor] by eddie71

Jan 02, 2013 (9:00 am)

Replying to: attilabokor (Jan 02, 2013 6:47 am)
1 of two things is going on. You either have a bad speed sensor which is built into the hub bearing assembly going out or you have a bad speed sensor cable. First thing first get the car scanned & find out which wheel it is. Once you know which wheel second get under there with the wheel removed & on a jack stand start wiggling the harness from where it plugs into the hub bearing as far as you can follow it. Turn the wheel back & forth & try to duplicate the light coming on while finding the cause. If you find the harness to be good I would change out the hub bearing assembly like $150 at Autozone & pretty simple to do. Good luck!

#199 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [eddie71] by attilabokor

Jan 02, 2013 (10:49 am)

Replying to: eddie71 (Jan 02, 2013 9:00 am)
Thanks Eddie, I started up again this morning after it was sitting for an hour, now the Service Traction/Stability/ABS System light are not coming on.... what you think?
 
Thanks

#200 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [attilabokor] by eddie71

Jan 02, 2013 (5:33 pm)

Replying to: attilabokor (Jan 02, 2013 10:49 am)
I think if u want to get rid of this gremlin get it scanned & start checking the speed sensor harness from the suspect wheel.

#201 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [eddie71] by attilabokor

Jan 07, 2013 (9:28 am)

Replying to: eddie71 (Jan 02, 2013 5:33 pm)
I scanned it when it showed the errors, no error codes...

#202 of 204 Re: Service Traction/Stability/ABS System [attilabokor] by eddie71

Jan 07, 2013 (10:09 am)

Replying to: attilabokor (Jan 07, 2013 9:28 am)
U have to have a scanner capable of pulling ABS specific codes. Then go under the ABS section to retrieve the "ABS" code. It will show no codes if you are in the PCM- power train section.

#203 of 204 Re: Traction Control/ABS lights on [ecugirl81] by seabeethom

Jan 18, 2013 (11:10 am)

Replying to: ecugirl81 (Jul 16, 2012 7:21 am)
To the ABS light needing a module. Go to CHEAP ABS. com they repair the module for 99.00 and guaranteed. I just had the same problem and my mechanic said it was 1200 to replace it. I looked on the internet for information and found their web-site. I got the module from my mechanic and sent it to them and they repaired it and it worked great. I have not had another problems with that.

#204 of 204 Re: Traction Control/ABS lights on [seabeethom] by attilabokor

Jan 18, 2013 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: seabeethom (Jan 18, 2013 11:10 am)
I already got it fixed for $200, they replaced the whole module ... no more lights, the copper in the cable was visible and that was causing the intermittent lights... one thing is sure... I'm not gonna buy GM anymore...

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