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#339 of 348 Press Request by KarenS HOST Sep 06, 2007 (8:40 am)
A freelancer aims to talk with owners of the following hybrid models: Accord, Altima, Camry, all Lexus hybrids and all pick-up truck hybrids.   Please respond to Chintan Talati at ctalatiedmunds.com no later than Wednesday, September 12, 2007 with your daytime contact information and the hybrid model you own.
#340 of 348 Well, by drfill Sep 07, 2007 (11:24 am)
If Planet Earth didn't have enough reasons to hate one person........she makes Michael Vick seem like Santa Claus!       DrFill
#341 of 348 Green Car Advisor by pf_flyer HOST Sep 14, 2007 (1:07 pm)
Be sure to check out Senior Editor John O'Dell's newest addition to our lineup, the Green Car Advisor for news and commentary on environmental automotive trends and technologies.   Looking forward to all your comments!
#342 of 348 Interesting film clip on Lexus by idele Oct 15, 2007 (2:56 pm)
http://www.monocle.com/sections/business/Web-Articles/Brand-Lexus/
#343 of 348 Politically-correct Pigs by skylineblvd Oct 29, 2007 (3:57 am)
Having looked over the pros and cons of the LS600h/hL, I have to say that this car looks a lot like Gas Guzzler Lite. It accomplishes little compared with the LS460 except to merit the dubious distinction of wearing a "Hybrid" badge. I won't rehash what others have said about performance, space, mileage, etc., but merely want to state that these cars appear to target the "more money than brains" crowd - type-A overachievers who want to coddle their fat backsides in comfort, get there yesterday, and be able to pretend that they are fashionably green. In short, the bucks one would lay out for a '600h vs. a '460 buy nothing more than a false image.   You want luxury or performance? Go buy a luxury or performance car, sans token environmental gestures, and if your conscience still bothers you, or your "green" friends are miffed at you, take the extra money you'd have ponied up to buy a '600h and install some solar panels on your home.   I think the '600h is a joke, and not a funny one, at that. For sake of full disclosure, I'll add that a) I can't afford a '600h, but honestly this post is not about "sour grapes"; b) I drive a 2007 Altima 2.5SL sedan, Majestic Blue color, which is a peppy, beautiful car with enough room for my entire family and plenty of amenities and comfort, and it gets 27 mpg driving locally and well over 30 mpg (varies from 33 to 35) on long trips. AND it has, IMO, looks that rival the Lexus, if not the panache or the ponies. Cost? I paid $23k and change.   Skyline, a shameless but pragmatic tree-hugger Replies to this message: sunson (Nov 06, 2007 8:27 pm)
#344 of 348 Re: Politically-correct Pigs [skylineblvd] by sunson Nov 06, 2007 (8:27 pm)
Replying to: skylineblvd (Oct 29, 2007 3:57 am) Then, you'll have to tell Al Gore that he shouldn't have his mansion with solar panels, fluorescent lights, etc. Basically, the LS600hl is like Gore's home.   The reason why we have hybrids is to improve fuel economy while not sacrificing performance. Although, I'll agree that its mpg is disappointing.
#345 of 348 How is the 600h selling? by rennybosch Jan 01, 2008 (12:34 pm)
There hasn't been much activity on this board. Does that imply that nobody is buying the h or that people are gobbling it up and have absolutely no complaints to post?   It would be a shame for Lexus to have to take a big loss, but it does sound like the arguments against outweigh the pros.
#346 of 348 Lexus desparate to unload their big hybrids? by gagrice May 13, 2008 (8:11 pm)
Sir Paul McCartney is said to be "horrified" that his new eco-friendly car was flown 7,000 miles from Japan.   The Lexus LS600H, which costs £84,000, was a gift from Lexus to the 65-year-old former Beatle, who helped promote the hybrid vehicle.   But instead of arriving by boat as expected, the car was flown to Britain on a Korean Air flight, creating a carbon footprint almost 100 times bigger than if it had come by sea.   Sir Paul is a vocal advocate of vegetarianism and has long been a poster child for environmental activism.   So much for the Big Green image Toyota longs to have.
#347 of 348 Lexus 600HL Owner Report Aug 22 2008 by ownalexus600lh Aug 22, 2008 (8:22 pm)
I've owned my Lexus 600HL for 20 days and here are my first impressions:   1) The car is very well made. The inside feels more like a hand made Rolls than any Lexus (I've owned 3 other LS430's prior to this one). The hand sewn leather dash, doors, etc. is a marvel to see and touch.   2) The car is very expensive (cost me $130,000 including taxes), and IMO is in the middle of the cost/value ratio. My car is equipped with all of the extras, including exec seating package, DVD players in the front and rear, shiatsu massage, 4 zone HVAC, 3 position air suspension, etc. It WILL take some time before I can confirm if the car is worth the price.   3) Handles extremely well in dangerous weather and was a life saver in last week's flash flood. The all wheel drive and the 'high setting' kept the car from hydroplaning in the streets where water had pooled from water run off from connecting streets. The car took me out of harm's way, while many other cars had been swamped and stalled in the extensive water in the roads. Since I've purchased the car in the summer, I'm not looking forward to seeing how it will handle in the snow.   4) The gas mileage has been very good. After 20 days of driving in NY Metro related rush hour traffic, driving many times into NYC as well as LI and highway driving, I'm averaging 22.1 MPG. That's a 30-40% improvement over my LS430. I do have some concern that the battery may not provide the same level of output after a few years, but Lexus 8 year warranty does give me some comfort.   5) This is the only car I've ever driven where I deliberately slow down and enjoy the ride rather than rush off to get to my destination. The cockpit reminds me of what's great about the 21st century. Feels more like a jet than a car. The 8 gear automatic is so smooth you don't even feel the car changing gears.   6) All the dials, controls, readouts, accessories, etc, are very logically located and operate intuitively. I didn't need to read the manual to know how to use everything.   7) The AV in the car, is sensational. 18 speakers driven by a digital surround processor and a hard drive that you can rip and organize up to 2,000 songs. My kids love the DVD player with the wireless headsets. What's really great for me is that I can listen to my music in the front while they listen to their movies in the back without disturbing each other. The SAT radio's reception is far superior to what I experienced in my old LS430 in areas that don't have a direct line of site to the satellite (under trees, tunnels, etc.)   8) My kids also love being able to recline in the rear seat with their legs up, their heads back, and get a massage while they watch their favorite movies. This is the first car I've owned where I would be just as happy sitting in the back as driving the car.   9) The car does drive differently than my old LS430. It is much heavier, longer and the incremental acceleration you get from the electric motor drive over the gas engine as soon as you hit the pedal takes some getting used to. In fact, it's so easy to accelerate to 80 MPH with so very little effort, I'm using the radar guided cruise control to avoid tickets for excessive speed. One minor negative, the radar guided cruise is not as smooth as the one that was in my old LS430, I think that may be due to significantly higher horsepower and possibly the electric engine torque. I hope to have this item fine tuned by Lexis when I take it in for my 1,000 mile check up.   10) The LED lights are extraordinary at lighting my path.   11) The car is very sexy, much sleeker than my old LS430. I really like the look, however, there is a trade off with visibility and lines of sight because the windshield and rear windows are more inclined. I've also noticed that the roof seems a notch lower, but you get used to these minor things quickly.   Lexus 600HL report card grade: A. I might just increase my rating to an A+ depending on how the car handles on ice and snowy roads this winter and how well it does on maintenance.   Stay tuned. I will repost a follow up report after I’ve had the car for 6 months.
#348 of 348 Keep this board going by alexis4 Dec 30, 2008 (10:12 am)
I've been reading a while, but haven't posted. It's funny how the value of these cars has changed recently. Across the board there has been a lot of devaluation, but some of the smaller cars and even the smaller SUVs have done well in the pre-owned market. The LS 600h has never sold in great numbers, but some on Ebay were asking rather high prices. www.lexusenglewood.com

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