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Replying to: dc661 (Apr 30, 2007 7:30 am) Some of them will go the wayside, as with any new car's early orders. Perhaps the demand won't be as large as expected. "This is the most sophisticated vehicle the company has ever produced and, of course, very limited volume," Michels said. "For this reason, our routine final production quality checks are even more rigorous than usual." Could be a glitch? ... being kept confidential, but needs to be ironed out. TagMan |
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Replying to: ljflx (Apr 30, 2007 6:25 am) I think that the main reason for the reduced trunk space with the LS460L is due to the reclining back seats but I could be wrong here. When the LS600HL was first announced about 2 years ago, I distinctly remember everybody talking about gas mileage somewhere in the 30s in the city and upper 20s on the highway. One reason for this talk was due to the fact that the RX400H was rated at 31/27. The thinking was that the technology would be even more advanced by the time the LS600HL would be ready for production and that if anything it would get better mileage than the RX400H. I think this is the major reason for my disappointment. I have actually given the S550 some thought. However, I don't want to deal with the reliability issue. I friend of mine got one about 4 months ago, and it has already had an unscheduled service call. Also, I do not hear good things about that "all everything control" (whatever you call it).
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Apr 30, 2007 9:49 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Apr 30, 2007 10:26 am) That's interesting - When I tested the S550, I could realize the initial intimidation factor of the COMAND system, however, after spending a little more time with it, it revealed itself to have a fairly logical and user-friendly G.U.I. (unlike i-Drive's reputation). I believe that it just takes a reasonable learning curve to get over the initial hump, which seems fairly typical nowadays with most electronic devices... such as cell phones, PDAs, and the like. I have not heard of reliability issues with the latest S-Class at this time. I am, of course, disappointed to learn that you have heard of some. But, frankly, it comes as no shock. The ergonomics of the LS are quite logical from my point of view, but they are more traditional, where there are the expected buttons and knobs and most buttons/knobs have their usual place. Instead of a central control system like the S550, the general interaction of the driver in the LS is to reach for the appropriate knob or switch, which certainly works fine, but isn't as modern, IMO. Some controls have centralized to the navigation screen, however, which is good, IMO. With regards to reliability... I wonder if the typical S550 would really spend enough time in the shop to actually dent the owner experience, but if only the best in reliability will do... well... you know who is tops in THAT department! And credit goes where credit is deserved. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 30, 2007 11:20 am) |
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Apr 30, 2007 9:49 am) Charlie - I think you are right about this. The bottom line is adding that gizmo might be good for the limo crowd but it doesn't serve the family crowd well. I was at the dealership today to return my 2004 car. They finally had an LS460L on display and the rear seat room is certainly very impressive on the car. I did notice that someone who had posted that the memory seating is missing from the passenger side is dead on. The specs at Lexus.com say it's there but the car only has it on the driver side. I'll ask my sales guy about that tomorrow. It's hardly an important feature for me but it should be there. The car on display was white and it looked very nice in that color. But flint mica and black are the colors I love the car in. I did ask about the smaller trunk because of the rear seat stuff and to my surprise no one cares about the trunk being smaller. That was according to my salesman and the dealership GM and there's still a shortage of LWB cars here. So I started talking to a guy at my sales guy's desk (while he was away with my papers on the the 2004 return). He had just taken an L with the rear seat options and he couldn't care less about the smaller trunk! Maybe it's us that are crazy??
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Replying to: ljflx (Apr 30, 2007 6:36 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 01, 2007 8:27 am) 
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Replying to: cyclone4 (May 01, 2007 10:34 am) 
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