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Pontiac Grand Prix, Audio, Sedan
#2 of 45 Re: Deals [rmozol]
Dec 27, 2005 (8:13 am)
I have a 2006 GXP and this will be my last GM car. This was my fifth Pontiac. Yes, the 2006 has the speaker hum or the hum may be from OnStar that it is not compatible with the Monsoon speaker system. I have been going back and forth with CAC and was told recently that the New Jersey representative for my dealership said that the dealership offered to take my car to a Sound Diagnostic Center and I declined! I said that is not true. I haven't been to my dealership since Oct. when I had an oil change. I then called the dealership and spoke to the owner. He talked to the service manager and they both said they never offered me that and I said I know that but that is what CAC said. The owner said there is no remedy for this and anyway, he said, the radio would be fixed here, not sent out. CAC also said I had 90 days; the owner said you have a three year warranty. He said all the CAC wants to do is get rid of problems! Now, this morning, the car had not been used for over two days and keep in mind that OnStar is always monitoring the car but if it is not used for 48 hours they are not monitoring it because they don't want to wear down your battery. Well, this morning when I opened my door there was no humming. Now, I'm convinced that it is from OnStar. I would like to know who the New Jersey representative is who said that I declined to have my car sent to a Sound Diagnostic Center, which was not true. But after thinking about the Sound Diagnostic Center for a few days I was thinking that I didn't want any radio place messing around with my car. If GM can't fix it. How can some radio shop? Another thing last week I noticed that the words "Push Audio" on the radio don't light up as do all the other words above the buttons. Also, I live in North Jersey and used my car in the snow and the stock tires were fine!!!
#3 of 45 Chats1 - speaker hiss \ hum
Dec 27, 2005 (9:49 am)
I don’t think I have commented here about the speaker hiss \ hum – except perhaps to acknowledge that it does exist on my 2005.
Although your post does not quite say that this is the (only?) reason your GXP will be your last GM car, there seems to be a strong implication here that this is the case.
I am really curious:
Is this the only or primary issue that results in such a declaration?
Although I am old, and have been to a few Rock Concerts and also been exposed to some other rather loud noises over the years, my hearing is still excellent, in every frequency range – and this hiss \ hum does not happen to bother me at all.
And mine does go away once I start the car (typically within a few seconds after I enter the vehicle) – does yours also? Meaning, we are talking about something that never occurs while driving your GXP, correct?
Now, you have every right to fell however you feel about this noise, but my GXP does so many things so very well – and I enjoy the GXP’s dynamics so much every chance I have to drive it – that I am surprised by how big a deal this speaker noise appears to be to you. I am pretty amazed that even if you do find it annoying, that frustration about this sort of thing would rise to the level of souring you on GM & Pontiac - forever.
My personal perspective is almost diametrically opposite. This GXP gives me hope that GM (my last 3 cars were not GM) does have the both the vision and the ability to make (at least a few) interesting cars. For me, there are certainly a few items that I would change, or ‘fix’, if I were designing & building a car just for me – but the positive and enjoyable aspects (particularly at the price) so far outweigh any annoyances that I find this one of the most pleasant overall cars to drive that I have had in some time. And my last 3 sedans had MSRPs much higher (and actual transaction prices MUCH higher) than my GXP.
Again, I don’t think you should not feel however you feel – but I’d really like to understand.
Very Happy GXP Driver – now that my new transaxle has been installed . .
#4 of 45 Re: Chats1 - speaker hiss \ hum [rayainsw]
Dec 28, 2005 (6:45 am)
Okay, it's the principal. I am not at all upset with my dealer, it's GM. They knew they had the problem with the 2005, and yet, failed to correct the problematic hissing/humming noise in the 2006. It should have been corrected and was not. Since they say there is no remedy and knew about the problem they should have done away with the Monsoon speaker system, which is made in Canada, and used another system. My only recourse is not to buy any other GM car which I have already told them. So, that is why I said no more GM cars. Also, even if a Sound Diagnostic Center checked the system out, which I doubt very much would have been in my favor, I would have had then to go through the BBB. It would not have been resolved. Everytime I called CAC I got a runaround. As my dealer said, they just want to get rid of problems -- they don't solve them. When you call them, all they do is look up your question in the Manual and then call the dealer. I can certainly read and go to the dealer myself. I have already told them that they are "worthless." I would think they would have someone manning those phones who knows about the car, not a telemarketer-type person.
Other than the above, I do like the car very much. I think it is very pretty. It has been my first four-door; I always get a coupe. I prefer the coupe, but Grand Prix, I believe, stopped making the coupes after my 2002 GTP. Now, the wheels on my 40th Anniversary Edition were beautiful; these wheels couldn't even compare to those special wheels.
My humming noise goes off after I start the car. I don't hear it at all when I drive my car. So because they put a problematic speaker system which they knew was in the 2005 into the 2006 (you think they would have corrected the problem or if not, don't put the problem in the 2006 -- use a different system). They just wanted to get rid of the junk -- they had an over-abundance of those speakers.
On another note, at my Christmas Party many of the other judges loved my car. They thought it was beautiful.
#5 of 45 Re: Chats1 - speaker hiss \ hum [chats1]
Dec 28, 2005 (9:34 am)
Chats1, I forwarded a link to your messages to someone who might be able to help (but GM is closed until next Tuesday). Contact me directly via my email address (available in my profile), and I may be able to get your more info/help.
doesn't work for GM
#6 of 45 Re: Chats1 - speaker hiss \ hum [rayainsw]
Dec 29, 2005 (7:14 am)
My speaker hiss/hum problem must be worse than most I'm reading here. I would be perfectly happy if it only happened when the car was off. That wouldn't bother me a bit. Mine has a hiss almost all of the time. Sometimes I can hear it at speeds of up to 50mph.
That's probably my biggest complaint with the car. Other than that, I'm still loving it with 15k miles. I'm hoping somebody can make some progress on the speaker thing. I've basically hit a dead end with any option I know of.
#7 of 45 Re: Chats1 - speaker hiss \ hum [dembrats]
Dec 29, 2005 (9:30 am)
Drop me an email at the address listed in my profile... and I'll try to get your name/info passed on to the appropriate folks at GM, thanks to my intermediary...
#8 of 45 Subwoofer
Jan 31, 2006 (12:12 am)
Can someone give me a general idea of where to connect the subwoofer in? Should I look in the trunk by the rear speakers, or tap in by the dash? Thanks.
#9 of 45 Stereos
Oct 09, 2005 (9:35 pm)
I test drove a couple different GXP's, and have a question. Is the Monsoon stereo THAT much better in actual use? I tried a CD of mine in the standard stereo and it still blasted the bass out pretty well. Now I'm having second thoughts on which stereo to get. Any opinions? Thanks.
#10 of 45 Re: Stereos [rmozol]
Oct 10, 2005 (11:05 am)
try them both, I have the monsoon, but I'm also an audiophile, I had a subwoofer added (stealth installation, along with the Amplifier), I appreciate music the way it's meant to be heard, lows through the highs, not the transistor radio sounds that come from base stereos in almost all vehicles, the monsoon made that much of a difference (only for the clarity from mids-highs) to me, though I also have a home theater that costs as much as a new kia. Its up to you but like the old saying goes more, bigger, and louder in this case is better (why else did we buy a car with 303HP, when just a decade ago we knew that 200HP was plenty to satisfy our needs)