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#39 of 125 Kia Spectra 2002 Engine trouble by smudgeandtaz Dec 13, 2007 (7:07 am)
I have a 2002 Kia Spectra and reently heard a rattling noise coming form the engine when accelerating. I had it looked at right away and i was told that the rod bearing was bad and that the whole engine had to be replaced! The cost for this is approx $3000 which is more than or close to what the car is worth. The car only has 88,000 miles. I know its not low mileage, but for a 2002 model in this day and age, a new engine at this mileage seems ridiculous to me. Any one else out there experience similar problems? Is there anything i can do apart form send it to the junk yard? Piece of crap!   Thanks   Rob
#40 of 125 2002 Spectra by acm563 Dec 13, 2007 (8:26 am)
Good Luck....I hope the 2002 my son has doesnt do the same thing. It only has 37K on it and we had to replace the transmission. I have a 2004 and as I said in my opinion they are POS....but others claim to have good luck with theirs so who knows
#41 of 125 It's time to stand up to the car companies by red911 Dec 13, 2007 (6:15 pm)
Thanks to those who replied to my post asking if I should buy a Spectra5. I bought a 2005 Toyota Matrix instead. They were the same year, same price. Hard to pass on the 'yota, even though in many ways I prefered the Kia.   Last year, I bought a 2002 MINI Cooper and the tranny failed at 34K miles. 4 months out of warranty. "Tough sh**" was the response I got from MINI. Even though I found multiple posts on the internet of the same failure. Even though they dumped the Midland transmission after 2yrs and replaced it with Getrag transmissions. So, why did MINI tell me, "we've not had any problems?" Why did the dealer tell me, "we haven't had any transmission failures here?" If that were true, why go to a new transmission?   By the way, Toyota has done the exact same thing on their 03-04 Matrix transmission that were failing right and left. Acting like they know nothing about it. But, hmmm... for some mysterious reason they put a new tranny design in the 05 Matrix. Wow, imagine that. They just "randomly" decide to fix something that isn't broken.   It's time we stand up to these car companies. There is simply no excuse for a drive train or engine to fail at these low miles. I don't see how they can defend it even at 100K miles. Cars should last at least that long.   I can accept that poor engineering happens. I don't condemn them for that. I don't expect perfection. What I DO expect is for them to face up to their mistakes and make it right. I expect them to stand behind what they sell.   If I did business the way they do, I'd be out of business.   I was a loyal BMW / MINI fan. I will now do my best to spread the word that they wouldn't fix my car for me. I will not own one again. Even though they now have great reliability records.   Maybe we figure out a way to not let them get away with this any more. ?????   Shannon P.S. BMW if you're reading this, I own a Porsche now. It's 20 years old and it is a better machine than you can ever hope to build. So take that!!!!
#43 of 125 Re: KIAS in general [acm563] by abermaus Dec 13, 2007 (7:25 pm)
Replying to: acm563 (Dec 06, 2007 3:57 am) I just bought a 2006 Spectra 5 and was told by Car Max, where i bought it, that the manufacturer warranty was still on the car, to 60,000 miles. They also sold me their own, 75,000 mile warranty but i have to pay a small deductible each time i let them fix the car.    I noticed today after looking through everything that i have absolutely NO previous maintenance records on the car. It has 20,000 miles on it. I dont even know when the oil was changed. So Car Max was telling me i had a warranty from KIA, but really they should have told me i dont because the previous owner provided no records?
#44 of 125 No records, no warranty by acm563 Dec 14, 2007 (4:26 am)
From everything I was told by Kia, no records =no warranty. If the engine fails at 33K and all you have are your maintenance records I would say you will get nothing, zip, nada...unless you happen to have an awesome service rep at your local dealership. Mine seemed like a nice guy when I bought the car and yes that is what sold me on the 2002, having the warranty to 60K but then when I tried to use the warranty we were just SOL. For the warranty to be effective you have to have all the records from the moment the car left the dealership brand new. My son is having more weird issues with the 02 Spectra where it acts like maybe the brakes are sticking or something but it is so intermittent we cant duplicate problem for mechanic. Its not the triny again as the rpms arent going up...who knows ..but as I said I will never buy a KIA again...... Replies to this message: abermaus (Dec 14, 2007 12:27 pm)
#45 of 125 Spectra quality? by nodule Dec 14, 2007 (4:52 am)
Dear Backy....who whoever else would like to comment....   Is there any evidence that the 2008 Spectra EX is NOT at the same build quality as the 200 Elantra SE? Im considering purchasing the Spectra EX for a long term car of around 150,000 miles.   I would love your thoughts!   Thank you!
#46 of 125 Re: No records, no warranty [acm563] by abermaus Dec 14, 2007 (12:27 pm)
Replying to: acm563 (Dec 14, 2007 4:26 am) I am so sorry you had this problem, and thank you for your post. Anyone who reads what you have to say before buying will be informed. I really appreciate it.   Here is what I found out:   I talked to Kia this morning, I was really upset. They told me that they should be able honor the warranty as I am starting at 18, 600 miles, even though there are no records. They also gave me the number of the dealership in Texas where the car was purchased so that i can attempt to get any service records kept there. They also told me that if I start the severe maintenance now and save the records of everything i should be fine, that my car is under 19,000 miles so there was not much to do in that period of time anyway. They also said that if the fluids are clean and whatnot, it will be obvious enough that the car was being maintained to their satisfaction.   She did say that they can still refuse however if something goes wrong and there is some evidence that maintenance was neglected. So I guess they can do whatever they want.   Car Max will be giving me their records, which i demanded today, and hopefully dealership in Texas has something for me too. But in any event, at the worst I will have to fall back on Car Max's warranty to 94,000 miles. I have to pay a deductible each time i get a repair, $50 at their place or $75 at any state certified mechanic.
#47 of 125 Good luck by acm563 Dec 14, 2007 (4:32 pm)
Hope it all works out for you. My son called me again today to say the 2002 was acting up again. It appears it is the new transmission we just put in about 2000 miles ago...We bought the new transmission from the Kia dealership, lets see what excuse they give us for not honoring THAT warranty now..... Replies to this message: abermaus (Dec 14, 2007 5:17 pm)
#48 of 125 Re: Good luck [acm563] by abermaus Dec 14, 2007 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: acm563 (Dec 14, 2007 4:32 pm) Gosh that is awful....and thanks, you too. It sounds like the mechanics that build and work on Kias don't know what they are doing.    I bet my Kia warranty will turn out to be useless, but we will see. I will follow up to everyone know.

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