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#102 of 127 Spectra5-Check Engine light at 725 miles!
Aug 12, 2007 (12:46 pm)
Bought my brand new 2007 Kia Spectra5 just 4 days ago.
The check engine light came on and I hooked a OBDC-II
to it and the code report it as an EVAP (small) emissions control problem.
I owned a (2006)Kia Spectra for about 4 months until I got it totalled in a car accident(not my fault). Decided to go
with a Spectra5. I loved the old 06 spectra. Had no problems
with it at all. In four months I put on 15k miles!! Followed
KIA manual with out fault.
Now I get the check engine light under 1k on the Spectra5 !!!
Checked Gas cap and check under hood for obvious hose or loose line problems.
I love the car. I choose the Manual Tranny with Electric Orange Color. It is great !!!
Bringing it to dealer first thing on monday.
Aug 12, 2007 (1:39 pm)
the check engine light may still turn off on it's own. Just checking that you've clicked the gas cap on enough times is sometimes all it takes to turn the light back off(and it'll stay off).
I have needed a new gas cap on one of my two Kia's before, too. You're under Warranty and if you feel more comfortable taking it in, do that, and let them check out your gas cap(among other things, if they need to). For some reason sometimes they're not made right and don't provide a tight enough seal for you.
I think you'll like your Spec5 too and that is an awesome color choice. Do report back what you find out, OK?
#104 of 127 Re: Spectra5-Check Engine light at 725 miles! [troynall]
Aug 13, 2007 (8:48 am)
ok, went to dealership.
they pulled the car to service bay.
i asked for all paper work.
tech reported that they "re-tightened" gas, drove car.
and "cleared" on-board computer.
if problem re-occurs then i will re-post. but i did
exactly what the tech did, except i did not "clear"
The dealership only had my car in the service bay for 8 minutes. plus 4 minutes for the test drive. I was out in
under 15 minutes !!!
Way to go KIA of Baton Rouge !!!(Allstar KIA)
THINGS I HAVE LEARNED -
#1 - Our sales person Tara wanted to put us in a alternate car right away !!!
#2 - Tech talked straight forward to me.
#3 - Tell someone your "keeping" a folder of incident
and start writing names down AND the wheels of progress
start moving faster.
#1 - Service guy(RYAN) does not know SH*T. so IMHO
dont even talk to these guys. All they do is paper work
and thats it.
#2 - KIA does not want a responsible "buyer", such as myself
to have access to "diagnostic" print outs.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGE ?
#1 - I really wanted that ERROR LOG printout from the diagnostic computer to compare to my own readings.
#2 - New Service Guy. Ryan sucks.
#105 of 127 It would be nice to get that error log
Aug 13, 2007 (9:45 am)
I agree. So it was just your gas cap needing to be turned enough times until it clicks 5 or 6 times? If so I am very used to this with both of my Kia's.
To get that error log would be nice. It's possible it won't tell you much of anything, though. But to be able to read it in it's entirety would be helpful. Your dealer should be interested in helping you. After all, you've spent a lot of money on one of their cars. You deserve to have a great running rig with no problems. Keep up the desire to probe for more information.
Good fortune to you and report back how your check engine light situation goes, OK? I remember those lights coming on and I felt better driving my Kia's when that dumb engine light was off. What's weird is it's for information and the car always ran well even with that light on every now and a then.
#106 of 127 Re: It would be nice to get that error log [iluvmysephia1]
Aug 13, 2007 (10:16 am)
they took it off and then turned it it three or four times.
i did that as well, but they "reset" or cleared the computer. i did not.
i guess they are ruling out the fact that its the cap.
and if it happens again, then replace cap comes next. i guess.
one cavet of information. i cross checked the ERROR code "(SMALL) EVAP Emissions Control Leakage"
and found out that this problem commonly
occurs when GAS CAP is not on properly OR it could
be a "LEAK" in hose OR the EVAP unit has been contaimenated
basically the last one mean that a person has "topped" off
their gas tank until it is completely full AND the excess gas has found its way into the EVAP unit.
Apparently a RONDO buyer had encountered this problem before. I checked the forums for the EVAP error.
I knew about the excessive topping off but never knew exactly why or what it damages. So its good to know.
And should be on the TIP of every SALES person's tounge when they talk to a customer when they purchase a car.
#107 of 127 Re: It would be nice to get that error log [troynall]
Aug 15, 2007 (6:56 am)
DAY 3 after FIRST TRIP to KIA for service.
sequence of events -
1)Left shop on Monday.
2)Filled up gas, but did not overfill.
3)reset tripA milage meter.
4)car would not start outside of daycare.
5)car had to be jumped started !!!
6)found that battery cable to battery post was loose.
7)checked mileage. Car has only travelled 111 miles
and used 3/4 a tank of gas !!!
8)Check engine light came back on !!!
8)set up appointment with service manager RYAN.
He reported that he will need it for a few days.
He reported that he will hook it up to a SMOKE machine.
9) A pit has formed in the pit of my stomach.
I knew this was not the end of the CEL problem.
#108 of 127 Question: what is a smoke machine?
Aug 15, 2007 (11:42 am)
Do ya know, troynall? Sorry to hear of this problem. Maybe they'll actually find it and fix it properly this time.
A smoke machine?
#109 of 127 Re: Question: what is a smoke machine? [iluvmysephia1]
Aug 15, 2007 (2:45 pm)
SMOKE MACHINE: a machine that pumps a non harmful smoke into the car hoses and finds the leaks while car is operating.
But they are "test" driving and waiting for the
Light to come on AND then fix it.
But what the difference if the light is already on ?
Are just came on ? BTW, Lemon law in my state says
they(KIA) has two more chances at fixes this problem.
Else they can give me a NEW car(since mine is BRAND NEW)
OR buy mine.
Honestly, I am having second thoughts about this SPECTRA5 !!!
Aug 19, 2007 (11:50 am)
I can't wait to see the new Kia coupe unveiled at Frankfurt. It is the new design from their new design chief, Peter Scherer. He comes from Audi and Kia has hinted that this new coupe is a look at what may very well be the new design direction from Kia.