Last post on Sep 21, 2008 at 1:00 PM
You are in the Kia Rio
What is this discussion about?
Kia Rio, Auto Repair, Sedan, Wagon
#27 of 36 Re: oil change [bigblue6]
Aug 27, 2008 (5:31 am)
If you don't mind me asking, what state are you in??? I am in Ky. and it doesn't get any colder than 0 and it is garaged, so it is a little warmer. I use the, I think, it is the 20w50 penzoil. If you look at your oil cap, it will tell you the weight of oil required. As far as the cold state you are in, if so, be careful not to use too light of a weight. Small engines work hard. Just thinking about the oil filter, it seems you reach it front standing in front of the car, down on the drivers front, have to use a very small oil filter wrench and place a towel or two under it to catch run-off. I am thinking it is a 15 milimeter socket on the oil pan.
As for your mileage, it may be the way you are driving, (highway or city), and how much you are putting in at one time. I put that much in when I bought the car and it got less than 32 mpg. Now that I have tested that for several months, I find it is better to fillup every 100 miles to get the best mileage. I average about 39 mpg when doing so. Most people won't stop so much. But, when I see what I am getting, I make an effort, because gas costs too much to begin with. So, after ten fillups, I have saved myself a few dollars. Most people think that is not worth the time. I find rolling my window down and throwing two dollars out each week is a little excessive. It may just be me, but I don't throw money out the window, whether I have a million or not. You should get better gas mileage than that. Try filling up before you drive so far. Try it, you may find you can do better. Good luck.
Something people should know: We were in Franklin Ky a couple months back and there was a man asking every driver that pulled in to fill up for a few bucks to get back to Tenn. One man filled his tank up out of the goodness of his heart. He is a black man, makes no matter, but yesterday at Kroger while filling up, this black man walks up behind me, scares me just a tadbit and asks me for a few bucks to make it back to Tenn. I told him, honestly, I am having a hard time of it just as everyone else is. He walked away praising the Lord and going to each and everyone pumping gas. I am thinking this is the same man from Franklin, but not exactly sure. I went in and told the manager about this. He ran him off. The manager is also black, and I am not starting anything by using race, just stating the facts. It is a fact that someone has no right to pester others as such. Walking up behind women, men, makes no difference and asking for money to get to Tenn, or any state for that fact, makes me uncomfortable. I have no problem with praising the Lord, and do it daily, but to use that to gain monetary gain thru begging on private property, spooking people, using religion as a backsetting, is not allowable, or shouldn't be. Just a warning to others: if you want to give to them, fine, just be careful. I am on a fixed income, have very little resources, am disabled, but able to drive, walk, etc. and am vulnerable to anyone. As are ladies of age, or any gender if a person wants something bad enough. Funny thing is, he could not drive his van away because of the lack of gasoline, but when run off, he went on his way. Sad but true. Help those that help themselves.
#28 of 36 Re: oil change [bigblue6]
Aug 27, 2008 (5:33 am)
Oh, and I must ask, why are you using 93 octane??? It will run on 87. You are driving a Rio 08'??? A little car from Kia??? thanks
Aug 29, 2008 (6:38 am)
BigBlue6? Did that car fall on you changing the oil??? Did you find the filter???
I still don't know what state you are in, and why u use 93 octane. It is none of my bussiness, but just curious. Gas went up this morning to 3.65. Went from 3.54 because of the hurricane that may or may not hit. I only got 40.0 mpg filling up this morning, beating the climb, saving .11 a gallon. Wow, I used 2.4 gallons, so it cost me 9.54, I think, and ran 96.1 miles. BigBlue game with the cardinals this weekend. Gonna be packed. later
#30 of 36 What a feeling???
Aug 30, 2008 (5:21 am)
Ever get the feeling you are talking to yourself??? I don't like chat rooms, cause they are full of teens that say stupid stuff. I like this forum. I guess I just like to chat, others don't. Last message.
#31 of 36 Re: oil change [rioowner]
Aug 30, 2008 (9:07 am)
Sorry, Been busy. Live in South Central Ky did not look for filter yet , only have 800 miles on it.
I like 93 octane because it is hard to find good 87 or 89 around this area. Work ptime at car parts place and see daily the problems people have with 87 . I have always used 93 in all my vehicles and never had any problems with performance or parts related problems that I see daily .
Hope the game is agood one...... my wife is UK fan and I am a Cardinal fan , We have fun with it .
#32 of 36 Re: Oil Change [rioowner]
Sep 10, 2008 (5:50 pm)
Hi Howdy Rioowner - Sorry to be slow in replying I was away for August. The oil change thing threw me when first reading it, as I hadn't heard about the extended sump life of the new grades of conventional oils until buying this car. It still made me a little nervous, previously I'd been changing my oil 4000 miles. I've let it get up to 6000 miles per oil change currently, and haven't noticed a dip in mileage during this time. The oil looks no dirtier than the old car at 4000, and smells ok too. For whatever that's worth. I'm not sure if I've posted this link before, but it was the best description of the extended sump life I've come across:
MEMA Extended Sump Life - pdf
I do agree, the dealer service plan would have you into the garage twice as often as the manufacturer recommends, which is a little disappointing. You'd hope that one of these dealerships wouldn't be such shysters. I get the notices in the mail and chuck 'em with the rest of the junk.
Mileage on the whole has been as good as I've hoped. I seem to have levelled out at 41MPG for a 60/40 Hwy/Cty mix - the daily commute. In strict highway driving, I've ranged from 35 -headwind :-< -up to 45MPG. You've got a record going there at 47 MPG. I did pick up one of the scan gauges, and that's been good fun in seeing the effects of different driving styles. I'm at 14000 miles, and the MPG curve is flattening out, so perhaps I'm pretty well through the break-in phase. Did you buy a manual or auto? Is it a Rio5 or the sedan? Have you been letting the oil change interval go the full 7500? Best- M43
#33 of 36 Re: Oil Change [max43]
Sep 11, 2008 (1:15 pm)
I just got in myself and don't see many posters on here, which upsets me. I guess they just don't like to talk. I do. Anyway, I will respond a bit later when I can think straight. Right now, I can hardly keep my eyes open. later
#34 of 36 Re: Oil Change [max43]
Sep 11, 2008 (8:11 pm)
Hey Max. got some sleep. I am a little bit sleepy still, so I won't be too long. I have a 5 speed, and it is a Rio5. I have about 400 miles left before I hit 3k for my next oil change. Which I won't do at 3k. I am heading out for a week in Oct. first week, and will put around1300 miles on it. Then I will change it when I get back. I don't see the use in changing at 3k when the manu./manual tells you 7500. That cannot be held against you if there is a warranty problem. You go by the book, you are ok. If you keep receipts, of course. I will change oil more often in the summertime. It gets hotter, the oil gets hotter, burns faster, thus, breaks down quicker. Long trips, over 50 miles also get the engine hot as is the oil. Wintertime, one word or two? I let the oil go longer because it lasts longer when it is cooler. But, the oil filter is another solution to keeping a clean engine. You don't have to have a six dollar oil filter. A two dollar oil filter will do just fine, like Campbells soup to Kroger soup. Not much difference, if any. The thing is, if you change the oil filter often, you keep cleaner oil. It is cheaper to change the oil filter only rather paying to have the oil and filter changed. If you don't change your oil, then it may be more difficult to change just the filter. On the Rio though, it is so simple, it being in front, and protruding outward, so only oil you lose is what is in the filter. Replace a cup full and go on. Changing the oil filter every two thousand miles keeps the oil cleaner, saves you on complete oil changes, and you get to see what your engine is doing. Most people don't even look at their engines any longer. I buy three oil filters at a time and when they are gone, it is time to change the oil, unless of course, it is summertime. Ok, change oil in November, run 6k miles on the car. Change the filter at 2k. It will take me four months to put 6k miles on the car. March rolls around, change the oil, remembering to change the filter every 2k, and then run 4500 miles before changing oil. Then, it is 3k when I change it. That will take me to around August, and it is hot, and then back to Nov. Not hard to keep up with. Just have it jotted down in front of you when you are on your puter. Oil changes at the dealer run around 24.95 or more. Val instant runs around the same, probably more, and firestone is about the cheapest at 16.95, but you have to wait, and they don't do much else. Oh, I said I was going to be short. I filled up today and recorded 42 mpg. I put 2.1 gallons in it. I still stop every 75 to 105 miles and fill up. It is better for me, and my wife doesn't run out of fuel, like most will do if left up to them. Don't hate me for that. It is a natural fact. I didn't come up with it. Anyway, let me know how the mileage is going. later
#35 of 36 busy, busy, busy
Sep 19, 2008 (9:42 am)
Everyone busy??? I certainly am, and taking out time to write about my Rio. I love it. I should have bought the two together when they offered it. Two for 222.00 a month, if not paying for it right off. Gas mileage is getting better. Getting an average of 42 mpg now. Of course, I am an excellent drive, better than 98 % of the people that have a license. And know how to get good mileage. You don't, and you should. Gas is coming down in price now, after having enough money for the congressmen/women children all to pay for eight years of college. Isn't it grand to sit back and eat out everyday at Red Lobster, 5th Quarter, etc. and not have to pay for it, knowing all the while, we tax payers are paying thru the nose for it??? Isn't it just wonderful to be able to contribute so much??? Isn't it wonderful, no just marvelous to know we tax payers pay so much for flood victims in Louisianna to move them to shelters, pay for their food, clothing, alcohol, and what not only to be begged by the red cross for more money donations, because they are running low, due to all the victims??? Isn't is just wonderful that we tax payers can pay for the stupid mess AIG, Merrill Lynch, and the others get themselves into??? Why would we turn them down??? It is only right we pay for their misguidings, lies, cheaters, insurance fraud, embezelments, thiefs, and just down right mismangagement??? Look what they do for the taxpayers. They give us the right to charge what they want for insurance. They give us the right to know we are protected against theft, loss, fire, etc. only don't get murdered, less they pay for that, NOT!!! Congress is selling this country out to anyone that has enough money to fill eighteen banks with money for their purpose. That is eighteen each, and there are a lot of congressment/women. If I am wrong, then why don't they ok drilling for OUR OWN OIL??? Why do they pay for someone's mistake that has nothing to do with american taxpayers??? We pay. They take. And take. We get nothing but to sit back and watch our money spent on lobster dinners. We get to live here free. Heck, we did that back in the sixties when they weren't taking so much of our money. Now, the wages have gone back to under what was paid in the 80's and we still pay taxes according to 2008. Real estate taxes haven't gone down, but our value in our homes has!!! Get mad people. Do something people. Quit your job and let someone else pay for cheese giveaways to the ones that won't work, and will only accept food stamps because they allow it. If we stopped working, America would fold, because all the billions of dollars, and I mean hundreds of billions of dollars sitting in banks that are owned by all the congressmen/women, senators, legislators, will never be touched and when this earth no longer exist as we know it today, all those billions upon billions of dollars, that could have helped all the sad, poor, hungry, ill, old, will be burned to a crisp. All in the name of GREED!!!
Sep 21, 2008 (1:00 pm)
there, boughtrio5. And no, it's sad material, just wanted to state that you expressed yourself very well in your post. Adds up to a whole lot of dishonesty, dishonesty that the man upstairs sees, even if the dorks running things down here think they are so high and mighty. I include the Hollywood elite in there and Oprah as well. Throw Donald Trump and Dennis Rodman in, too. Include the lovely tattoos, for sure. Carry on and carry the stick you feel you ought to carry...and enjoy your Kia Rio's, too, that you all will take good care of.