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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L: First Drives

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#45 of 94
Re: Drivers Leg room [jd14] by hpowders
Oct 25, 2006 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: jd14 (Oct 25, 2006 2:00 pm)

Everybody's different. Before I checked out the GS, a guy my height told me my head would practically be touching the sunroof, but for me, my head didn't come close to hitting it.
 
You have to drive it yourself and see if it "fits."
 
One incredible aside: Lexus claims the new ES350 is more advanced and powerful in every measureable way than the initial Lexus LS400 flagship.
Now that's what I call progress!
#46 of 94
Confirmed! by drfill
Oct 25, 2006 (8:09 pm)
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I will be driving the New LS460/L at A Taste Of Lexus this Sunday!
 
   My battle plan is to drive the S-Class first, than 750, than LS460L, to see how it stacks up.
 
   Eye sore a 750 recently on the street and they really cleaned up the rear! Very nicely updated.
  
   Wish they could do the same with the S
 
   I'd like a 335i to match against the IS350.
 
   I'll let you know how it went after the Giants game!
 
   DrFill
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Drove one today by nvbanker
Oct 26, 2006 (6:55 pm)
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I attended the Taste of Lexus tonight. I have very little to say that isn't glowing about the car. The driving position is pretty much unchanged from my 05. The steering is like butter, folks, and I love butter. It's so quiet and smooth, you can barely tell you're on the road.
The dash is similar in layout, but way enhanced, and styled beautifully. The trunk is fine, I noticed no difference in the dead pedal or driving position at all. The engine is great. I can't think of a downside except the price....
I'm gonna want one of these.
#48 of 94
Re: Drove one today [nvbanker] by cyclone4
Oct 26, 2006 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 26, 2006 6:55 pm)

I agree with everything you say except that the trunk with the rear seat upgrade is a bit small (not a deal breaker though). I test drove it last Friday. I have a huge dilemma. I was planning to purchase the LS600HL in April. However, that horror story I hear about the minuscule trunk has likely turned me away from the 600HL. I don't want to spend 100K and then be unhappy because of the damn trunk space. What are we suppose to do if my wife and I take a trip with a couple friends?
 
Meanwhile, I would pull the trigger and go for the LS460L immediately. However, there is one thing holding me back. It does not come with AWD. Living in snow country, I really feel that AWD is a must. I drive a 2004 LS430 now, but I do get tired of changing to snow tires for winter driving. I want the security of AWD. I am hoping against hope that the LS460L will have the option of AWD next year. Have you folks heard anything new on this front? My dealer told me just the other day that they have heard nothing of the sort. They do not think AWD will be available even next year. But, what do they know?
#49 of 94
Classification correction by chicago5
Oct 27, 2006 (9:18 am)
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Classification correctionThe new Lexus LS460 is regular wheel base and long wheel base. RWB and LWB. The regular wheel base is by no means short
#50 of 94
Re: Drove one today [cyclone4] by
Oct 27, 2006 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 26, 2006 7:36 pm)

Your in a tough spot!
 
   It could show up in time for next winter, since Lexus made that mandate about all their cars having AWD. And I'm sure every Detroit/Chicago/Boston/NY dealer is in lexus' ear about that issue.
 
   If demand is as strong as I think, they may just wait until the the mid-gen update in 2009, when everyone's 3-year lease is up from the launch this year.
 
   Personally, I would wait more than two years.
 
   BMW doesn't offer it on their 7, do they.
 
   DrFill
#51 of 94
NV by
Oct 27, 2006 (10:20 am)
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What competitive models did they have from Germany to drive?
 
   DrFill
#52 of 94
Re: Drove one today [cyclone4] by ljflx
Oct 27, 2006 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 26, 2006 7:36 pm)

Ok - I also drove both cars (LWB and regular)and they are spectacular. Handling is definitely crisper and cars are very luxurious in and out. Trunk is fine, footwell nonsense is nothing but bunk and seats are very comfortable. Brakes were excellent. The LWB car was the looker and the better ride but it had air suspension vs the base suspension so the comoparo is not an even one. Car looks spectacular in the smokey granite mica and that's the color of the SWB model I drove. Heck it's a beautifully designed car and should look great in any color. I'd say the SWB car (the one I drove stickered at $68k) is a great upgrade of the existing LS430, with sportier handling, a firmer ride yet one that sacrifices nothing in smoothness, has more luxury and a lot more power and great styling. Everything about the LWB is perfect. The car I drove stickered at $83K and change. The ML is unbelievable with the 19 speakers. The car just exudes luxury, confidence and has excellent performance particularly in sport mode. This car is like a bank vault. Can't wait till it's in my garage. I didn't even care about AWD when I left, I just knew I wanted the car yesterday.
 
Now the LS600HL is going to blow us all away, I just see that coming. If you can afford it you may not be able to pass it up unless the trunk really is small and is a deal breaker. But that car is going to have so many deal winners.
 
Bottom line is Lexus built versions of this car that meet a variety of economic demographics and will hit each demograpic perfectly.
 
Some news I got - AWD is a definite but when is unknown - likely in the spring (what timing!). At my dealership the demand is high on the LWB model and people are writing checks and buying those cars and tending to lease the SWB model. Anyone who thought Lexus would have a hard time selling cars at $90K better rethink that one real fast. Car is red hot and not easy to get but we all knew that would be the case.
#53 of 94
LS 600h L special edition by excelsior88
Oct 27, 2006 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 27, 2006 10:24 am)

The first 100 LS 600h L vehicles will offer unique traits such as Truffle Mica exterior paint coupled with Alabaster leather and black trim interior, special alloy wheels, a commemorative interior badge, and a custom-made, three-piece Italian luggage set in coordinating Alabaster leather with black trim.
 
From a post at CL, quoting an article
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/708278/lexus_and_cedarssinai_continue_on_the- _road_to_a_cure/index.html?source=r_health
#54 of 94
Re: Drove one today [ljflx] by oac
Oct 27, 2006 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 27, 2006 10:24 am)

I'd say the SWB car (the one I drove stickered at $68k) is a great upgrade of the existing LS430, with sportier handling, a firmer ride yet one that sacrifices nothing in smoothness, has more luxury and a lot more power and great styling..
 
Len, can you lay out what features were on this car ? BTW, your description of your test drives was crisp and matter-of-factly... the way I like it... Thanks. Are you taking home that LWB next March or are you going to get in early before your lease ends ?
 
And on the $80K+ LS selling briskly, what would those who have knocked Lexus as a cheap alternative to the pricier German brands now say, eh ? Seems the LS is now priced even higher than the 7 and A8, and is a whisker off the S550 price. Good for Lexus.... They have achieved the prestige and status, and are showing it off in their new 460 twins. So when a $100K 600hL arrives, that'd just be a cinch for the arrival of Lexus in the upper tier of luxury brand...

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