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Changes You'd Like To See in the A3

47 messages,  Last post on May 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM

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Re: A TDI [go4dave] by nomowhale
Jun 19, 2008 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: go4dave (Jun 19, 2008 9:11 am)

Thanks for the info. I will definitely take a look. What kind of gas mileage are you getting with your car now?
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Gas Mileage by andres3
Jun 19, 2008 (11:04 am)
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I get a pretty consistent with my driving style (aggressive) 25 miles per gallon in mixed driving.
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Re: A TDI [nomowhale] by shipo
Jun 19, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: nomowhale (Jun 19, 2008 7:47 am)

"I like it much better than the 225hp V6 I had in my 2003 530i that I traded in for the A3."
 
I'll bet you $10,000 that your 530i did not have a 225hp V6. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, BMW has never (and hopefully will never) build a V6 engine of any size or power rating.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Gas Mileage [andres3] by go4dave
Jun 19, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 19, 2008 11:04 am)

my driving is very aggressive (Las Vegas, has horrible traffic) and with nowhere to really go on the open highway,, it's all stop and GO LIKE HELL!! Anyway, for the first 11,000 miles,,, i got 21.8 mpg in the summer,, (avg temp 107 degrees F) the rest of the year, i got 22.5 mpg. After the Cold Air Intake and APR Flash, (same drive to work) the first summer i got 23.9mpg, and 24.8 mpg the rest of the year. Now this summer,, as gas prices are going up,,,, i think the fuel makers are cheating us on Octane, and quality (also, with the new % of alcohol allowed) my car is getting about 23.5 mpg (but it's been really windy, and HOT so far this summer) But i still believe,, they are Raping us on Quality of fuel at the pumps.
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Re: A TDI [shipo] by jxbst15
Jun 19, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 19, 2008 11:40 am)

I think the next A3 will correct most if not all of my fusses over the A3...
 
-A navigation system worth paying an overinflated price for.
-A useful USB/iPod integration
-Aluminum pedals as a standard feature on the sport/S-Line package
-full leather seats as others mentioned
-better A/C controls (the click knobs are a pain)
-better placement of the parking brake
-turn lights on the rear view mirrors
-keyless entry/ignition
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Re: A TDI [shipo] by nomowhale
Jun 19, 2008 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 19, 2008 11:40 am)

Sorry, you are right. I meant 3.0-liter, double-overhead-cam inline six-cylinder engine that produced 225 horsepower. I like the low end torque on the 2.0T better than on the BMW engine. With the AC on the BMW would struggle a little bit until I got up to 3500 rpms where it would reach its max torque. In my Audi you reach max torque at 1800 rpm and the band stays flat until 5000 rpm. That is impressive.
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Re: Gas Mileage [go4dave] by nomowhale
Jun 19, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: go4dave (Jun 19, 2008 12:25 pm)

I got 25 mpg on my 530i using 93 Octane with a 75-25 mix of highway and local driving (my best guess). I am hoping for 27 or 28mpg with my A3, but time will tell.
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Re: A TDI [nomowhale] by shipo
Jun 19, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: nomowhale (Jun 19, 2008 1:34 pm)

"With the AC on the BMW would struggle a little bit until I got up to 3500 rpms where it would reach its max torque."
 
Really? Did you have a manual or an automatic transmission? I ask because I never even felt the presence of the A/C compressor on my 2002 530i 5-Speed.
 
Best Regards,.
Shipo
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Re: A TDI [shipo] by nomowhale
Jun 19, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 19, 2008 1:46 pm)

I had the manual. I felt just the slightest hesitation below 2000 rpm with the AC on. I wonder how much the horsepower was reduced at that point with the AC on compared to with it off. If I remember correctly the engine produced 175 lbs of torque at 1800 rpm. My 2004 Jetta had 166lbs of torque at 1800rpm and was a much lighter car. My 530i was lacking a little in low end torque in my opinion.
 
I love BMWs. I had a 2001 323i before the 530i and I think the engine was better matched to size and weight of the car--just my opinion. I never had any hesitation with the AC on in that car. I liked the 323i better than the 530i because of the engine and its handling characteristics.
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Re: A TDI [nomowhale] by shipo
Jun 19, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: nomowhale (Jun 19, 2008 2:04 pm)

Hmmm, interesting. A couple of points:
 
1) I had a 1999 328i 5-Speed prior to my 5er, and I have to admit, while I liked my 530i MUCH better than the 328i, the 3er had better throttle response, errr, at least for a while.
 
2) Item #1 isn't completely true. I picked up my 530i in Munich in April of 2002, and while I had the car over in Europe, the throttle response was almost perfect. The only thing I would have changed about the throttle programming Mark 1 was that if I was accelerating up a ramp to the AutoBahn and then partially lifted because of traffic in front of me, and if the current speeds were in excess of 80 mph, the car always felt like it wanted to keep accelerating, forcing me to lift off even further.
 
3) When I got the car back to the States, my dealer did me a "favor" by flashing the OBC with the latest code. Gee, thanks for nothing. The Mark 2 programming of the drive by wire software sucked so badly that I nearly got into a couple of accidents. Say I'd be turning left out onto a 4-lane road, and say the hole wasn't all that large; I'd nail it, get into the hole, and then lift off throttle so as to transition from acceleration to steady speed. The OBC would sense a sudden decrease in pedal angle and SHUT DOWN the power like RIGHT NOW, even if I still had some pressure on the gas pedal. The problem only got worse when the A/C was on.
 
4) After hearing from a service technician that, "They all do that" and me responding, "Well, it sure as hell didn't do that in Europe", he looked a bit stunned and went in and checked the release date of the firmware. Sure enough, it was dated right about when my car was delivered to me in the States.
 
5) He immediately installed what I'll call the Mark 3 version of the firmware and the problems were immediately solved.
 
That was a long way around of suggesting that maybe you had the Mark 2 code as well.
 
Back to the A3, the single largest change that I'd love to see in the A3 would be if Audi would humor all of us BMW drivers and switch the car from FWD to RWD.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo

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