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Jeep Liberty/Liberty Diesel Brakes

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Snowpacked Brakes by jeepgirl05
Jan 30, 2008 (9:55 am)
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My diesel Jeep Liberty is having issues with the brakes. I live in MT, we have tons of snow here. It only does this in the snow, so pretty sure thats the problem, but how do I fix it? The Jeep Dealer & tire shop will clean it out for me for under $50.
Am hoping somebody has a "do it yourself" kinda thing.
It has to sit out in the weather. Was thinking of sitting a heater by the tires, hoping this might work?!
Ok the problem is, when go to stop, the brakes sound like there stuck/frozen, makes a noise & sounds like a sick cow. I tap them thinking that will help, but doesn't always work. Few days ago, it did this in town, I was going super slow, on a slick street, brakes didnt work..so was either hit the guy in front of me or aim for the giant snowbank, I kinda freaked and let go of steering wheel & thats where I ended up, about 1/2 way up on a snowbank. Only damage it did was break the front bumper in couple spots, no other damage.
Any sugguestions greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [jeepgirl05] by siberia
Jan 30, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: jeepgirl05 (Jan 30, 2008 9:55 am)

Jeepgirl05,
 
The Jeep Dealer & tire shop will clean it out for me for under $50.
 
I don’t understand, clean what out? You have 4-wheel disk brakes. The pistons that work the pads are pretty much sealed – but not invulnerable. You have small rear drums for the parking brake and that’s it. Are they just going to pull the Jeep inside until all the ice and snow melts off? Are you saying that your brakes did not work at all or your antilock brakes did not work and the wheels just locked up? (just FYI questions you need to answer for yourself) Antilock brakes on the Liberty make a vibrating, grating sound that could be heard as groaning. Antilock brakes can only do so much on glare ice.
 
“Not invulnerable” means that something like jagged ice could possibly but unlikely damage a piston seal and cause corrosion in a brake piston leading to piston seize, but the other brakes would still work and the vehicle would pull to one direction.
 
There has been a lot written on this forum about the rear brakes on the Liberty groaning and clunking. If I wash my Liberty in warm dry weather and run it into the garage without driving it, the next time I back out the rear brakes might groan/moan and clunk until the first application of the brakes. Sometimes in cool humid weather the same thing might happen the next time I drive out, although this hasn’t happened for a while. For some owners the problem was enough for their dealer to replace the rear pads and that seemed to cure the problem. I just ignore it because it never seems to affect stopping and is very temporary.
 
If your antilock brakes actually did not work you need to get them repaired whether the vehicle is still under warrantee or not. Without access to the vehicle I can only speculate and someone else might speculate in a different direction. Good luck and stay safe.
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [siberia] by jeepgirl05
Jan 30, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: siberia (Jan 30, 2008 12:50 pm)

Found the problem, there was a chunk of ice/snow mixture, stuck in near the front wheels, anyway its out now, so good to go. Had brakes checked there fine.
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [jeepgirl05] by siberia
Jan 31, 2008 (3:17 am)
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Replying to: jeepgirl05 (Jan 30, 2008 5:47 pm)

Occam's Razor. A friend of mine was driving a '65 Mustang on the highway in just the right kind of snow that built up in the wheel wells until he lost his steering and went in the ditch. So what you really had was snowpacked wheel well(s)
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [siberia] by jeepgirl05
Jan 31, 2008 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: siberia (Jan 31, 2008 3:17 am)

yup, so it snowed alot more last night...will have the same problem again, ugh!
Been setting a heater by the front wheels hoping to melt some of it off, it has to sit outside. Not fun
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [jeepgirl05] by siberia
Jan 31, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: jeepgirl05 (Jan 31, 2008 9:35 am)

What I did was run a hot water pipe to my outdoor faucet. So when I come home with a ton of ice and snow under the wheel wells I can turn on the hot water and just wash it off before putting the Jeep in the garage. It also makes for better car washing on cool days.
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Re: Snowpacked Brakes [siberia] by caribou1
Feb 04, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: siberia (Jan 31, 2008 7:06 pm)

To avoid packing the wells I just frequently turn my steering full left to full right when I am in heavy snow.
I was once stuck because the power steering was not powerful enough to force the wheels to steer. Either the serpentine belt was slipping over the pulley or the overpressure. valve of the steering pump got mad at me.
 
People put chains up front to widen their tracks and avoid ice forming around the steering tires. Even my new BFG T/A tires get caught in heavy snow. We usually think traction by the rear is important, but what a frustration not to have a steering wheel anymore
 
When you drive a normal car you never dive so deep in the snow; you stall by looking at it.
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Re: Rear Drum Brakes [john81] by wittsend
May 04, 2008 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: john81 (Jan 08, 2006 6:48 pm)

The "Flaw" is the fact that the have started making the rotors thinner thus lighter for MPG. Which now they warp faster and are consumable instead of just having them resurfaced like you use to in the 70's and 80's.
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Moaning, grinding noise on hard turns in 2006 Liberty CRD by hockeymom98
Oct 05, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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I have taken my 2006 Liberty CRD in twice for a deep, grinding, almost moaning noise that comes from the front wheel wells on slow, hard turns (like in a parking garage). The first time, they told me it was my rear differential fluid (I kid you not) and this time they are telling me they don't hear it. I am not losing my mind - everyone in my parking garage at work is hearing this. My Libby has 41,000 miles. Any ideas on what might be causing this? I checked the power steering fluid, it's good and there are no leaks. There does not appear to be any obstructions in the wheel well that would cause the tire to rub against anything. I am at a loss on this one. Maybe some good anti-psychotic drugs will help with the noises I am hearing... (just kidding... really! LOL)

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