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Jeep Liberty/Liberty Diesel Brakes

74 messages,  Last post on Oct 05, 2009 at 1:22 PM

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Re: Jeep liberty rear drum brake [jessie22] by jeffinthed
Nov 14, 2007 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: jessie22 (Jan 02, 2007 9:16 pm)

I have this exact same problem you describe on my 02 Liberty. Did you find anything that fixes it? I replaced the shoes and it didn't help. Problem came back after a couple weeks as you describe. I haven't replaced the drums and would like to avoid paying the $180 to do so. Any help is much appreciated!
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Rear brakes on 2005 Liberty 2WD by dmblair
Dec 02, 2007 (4:23 pm)
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I have an 05 Liberty with 40K on it. Has anyone had any problems getting the rear rotors off? I know the parking brake mechanism is on the inside of the rotor. I'm thinking that is rusted which is causing my issues removing the rotor. What is going on with these brakes? At 40K the rear pads were smoked already and the rotors need turned/replaced?!?! I started getting a nice grind from the passenger rear and I found a nice groove that was starting on the rotor from the pad. Any ideas on how I can get the rotor off? Thanks. Dave
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brake pedal fall away by emp2
Dec 14, 2007 (5:42 am)
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The brake pedal on my 2006 jeep diesel falls away when steady pressure is applied . My dealers service tells me this is normal to all jeep diesels even though the gas jeep brake pedal will hold firm when the brake is applied . Are the brakes on the diesel different than the gas ? Does the pedal fall away on your jeep diesels ? I have driven vehicles for 50 years and the above discribed problem would have meant there was something wrong with the brakes.
Emp2
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Re: Brakes [emp2] by nescosmo
Dec 14, 2007 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: emp2 (Dec 14, 2007 5:42 am)

Only in the dealer world. Something is wrong, tell them to give it to you in writing so when something happen to the CRD or you , you can sue them
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Re: Brakes [nescosmo] by emp2
Dec 14, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: nescosmo (Dec 14, 2007 6:46 am)

After talking to customer service I was told to go to another dealer for opinion on the" brake fall away" this is how the service manual refers to the brakes going down under foot pressure . So far no jeep diesel owner have replied as to how there brakes pedals react in there vehicles . Do you have a diesel ?
Emp2
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Re: Brakes [emp2] by usaf
Dec 14, 2007 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: emp2 (Dec 14, 2007 2:43 pm)

I have 06 CRD with 20K. Brakes are solid and work well.
 I had this problem with 98 chevy SUV. Put new pads on rear (drums) and kept them tight. Worked good after that.
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Re: Brakes [usaf] by emp2
Dec 18, 2007 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: usaf (Dec 14, 2007 7:41 pm)

I talked with a chrysler mechanic yesterday who had just had a class on brakes and there repair. He said many jeep owners had the same concerns about the brakes as I had " brake pedal fall away" . He said three differant brake systems were used and one type had the fall away of the brake pedal as I have and that it was NORMAL . Also it was not only the Jeep diesel that had this brakes system .
Emp2
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Re: Brakes [emp2] by siberia
Dec 19, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: emp2 (Dec 18, 2007 5:35 am)

That is correct. It should take substantial pressure to make the brake pedal “fall away”. The fluid is accumulated under pressure and used by the anti-lock system. The amount of pressure needed to make the pedal fall away would otherwise lock up the brakes on dry pavement.
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Re: Brakes [siberia] by emp2
Dec 20, 2007 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: siberia (Dec 19, 2007 8:19 pm)

Regarding break pedal fall away . I'm sorry I was not clear when I discribed the problem . The break pedal fall away I was addressing occurs when the vehicle is not moving as at a stop sign and without an excessive,but steady foot pressure.
Emp2
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Re: Brakes [emp2] by siberia
Dec 20, 2007 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: emp2 (Dec 20, 2007 9:49 am)

Typically, a master cylinder that is just starting to fail will allow the pedal to “fall away” slowly with just the weight of your foot until it goes to the floor. Then the pressure bleeds off and the car begins to roll away. However, if you step firmly on a failing master cylinder most of the time the added pressure will push the flexible cup out against the cylinder wall and it will hold the pressure as long as pushing firmly. Slack off on the pressure and it will fall away and the brakes release. This is not a hard and fast rule – just most of the time.
 
I really liked the hard brake pedal on my old '95 GC. I don't like the idea if a mushy pedal where it's difficult to tell if brakes are working normally or failing. My personal opinion is that it should be unambiguous.

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